Different flybarless electronics

[Ade_Law]

First off,

These comparison threads tend to be a treasure trove of relatively useless "opinions" and "its just better ok?" Now I know a lot of apple iphone/ipad users find it hard to not just believe what the guy on a stage is saying but please at least attempt to keep things away from Jony Ive style feelings of beautiful aluminum objects and keep to tangible items based on actual physical evidence.

here is an example of what im not looking for!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKOrkLxOBoY

Linked below is a google form (which are rather awesome btw)

fill it in to the best of your knowledge. Hopefully we will get some useful information as to the ease of setup and performance of different ones. More people that answer it the more accurate the data will be so spread it around!

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/12xQ...IiQ9Q/viewform

on a side note.

could somebody explain this robotic feel that people have been talking about? I have flown a few V bar's and a beastx but not noticed anything strange other than flying straight as an arrow!

Ade

[waveydavey]

could somebody explain this robotic feel that people have been talking about? I have flown a few V bar's and a beastx but not noticed anything strange other than flying straight as an arrow!

I think what people refer to is the locked in, instantaneous reaction to an input, an input that stays there until another one. Whereas the opposite would be the looseness of a flybar equipped heli. The BeastX comes in for this criticism but I find the opposite, I find it progressive and accurate. I've only really used it on the 600 which with a flybar flys akin to something of a big MCPX IE shite. The BeastX transforms it into an accurate workhorse of a heli.

[Gixxer]

Do you think people will answer any differently on a Google form than they would on a forum?

[jimmyhorns]

I dont think im particularly interested in any of the answers on the form TBH. Im interested in subjective opinion on the unit as a whole.

How long it takes to set up is user dependent, as well as system dependent. Whether it is flyable after initial setup will depend on how competent the person setting it up is, not the unit, and the subjective opinion over whether something is flyable.

ASAIK all of the mainstream units fly 'out of the box', I have setup and flown 3gx, beast-x, v-bar and vortex myself, and all of them were flyable from the outset.

How long something takes to tune will depend on the level of someones flying, and how picky they want to be, and whether fiddling actually achieves anything, so a unit that takes on average less time to tune wont always be the 'better unit'.

Id much rather hear, on here, peoples subjective opinions. Its not difficult to see what my opinion is from my signature on here

[Ade_Law]

Do you think people will answer any differently on a Google form than they would on a forum?

No. Its more powerful than a forum poll.

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[Gixxer]

No. Its more powerful than a forum poll.

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I agree, it does ask specific questions but brand loyalty could possibly knock a few hours off setup times

[Ade_Law]

That's why I asked first use setup time question.

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[PorscheBoy]

That's why I asked first use setup time question.

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Surely first setup is heavily influenced by your personal skill set and what disciplines you are biased towards, e.g. A helicopter s/ware programmer is likely to be quicker picking it up than say err someone who isn't a helicopter s/ware programmer (no disrespect to all of us who aren't )...

[Ade_Law]

And thus would also be quicker on subsequent setups

There is a question that covers that to!

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[xygax]

If I can set them up then its gotta be simple.......
I have done about 5 different types...
1. Tarrot zyx bin fodder... not a hope
2. FU-Bar good and quick flies ok on a 450 ...
3. 3GX.. not so easy couldn't solve a waggy tail...
4. Vortex wasn't bad but was better on the V2 software have got 5 now
5. K-Bar The instructions are wrong.. ! but setup was reasonable if you can read chinglish

Steve

[PorscheBoy]

Nah, not really, we are all capable of learning, the more we do it the quicker we get (least that is what the wife says).

[Ade_Law]

Quote from one of the poll answers:

"I never crash because my Vortex has magical powers.
Since I bought my Vortex I have women flocking into my arms.
I tried a Vbar but there were adverse effects. Men started whistling at me and smelling my hair.
Vortex is for real men."

What do I buy if I love my wife? 😀


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[jimmyhorns]

Quote from one of the poll answers:

"I never crash because my Vortex has magical powers.
Since I bought my Vortex I have women flocking into my arms.
I tried a Vbar but there were adverse effects. Men started whistling at me and smelling my hair.
Vortex is for real men."

What do I buy if I love my wife? 


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Haha

That wasnt me, but I can guess who it was

[Ade_Law]

If I can set them up then its gotta be simple.......
I have done about 5 different types...
1. Tarrot zyx bin fodder... not a hope
2. FU-Bar good and quick flies ok on a 450 ...
3. 3GX.. not so easy couldn't solve a waggy tail...
4. Vortex wasn't bad but was better on the V2 software have got 5 now
5. K-Bar The instructions are wrong.. ! but setup was reasonable if you can read chinglish

Steve

There is always one click the link Steve 😀

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[Planehazza]

could somebody explain this robotic feel that people have been talking about? I have flown a few V bar's and a beastx but not noticed anything strange other than flying straight as an arrow!

I think what people refer to is the locked in, instantaneous reaction to an input, an input that stays there until another one. Whereas the opposite would be the looseness of a flybar equipped heli. The BeastX comes in for this criticism but I find the opposite, I find it progressive and accurate. I've only really used it on the 600 which with a flybar flys akin to something of a big MCPX IE shite. The BeastX transforms it into an accurate workhorse of a heli.

I think of it as "on rails". It's very precise, hard stops, almost twitchy but not in the sense of a lack of expo twitchy.