Raptor 50 and 3g setup

[disho]

Raptor 50 and 3g setup, just followed all set up points, it all looks to be working except when I move pitch up or down its also moving the elevator servo with the pitch movement tilting the swash ?

[tourerjim]

Is your Raptor ccpm with left pitch servo connected as pitch.?

[KevDavies]

didnt think the 3g did single servo swashes??

[disho]

didnt think the 3g did single servo swashes??

Yes it does, its all working except for the elevator servo interaction with the pitch, cant work it out

[disho]

[QUOTE=tourerjim;1058062]Is your Raptor ccpm with left pitch servo connected as pitch.?[/QU Just standard rappy 50

[disho]

Is your Raptor ccpm with left pitch servo connected as pitch.?

Just standard rappy 50

[electricsceadu]

didnt think the 3g did single servo swashes??

i think this is correct for the later versions
the early ones supported single servo
thats why i never updated mine


to the op
be very carefull
if you get the 3g to work on the bench ok
in flight it may not work as expected, mine came straight back at me on a single servo set up in flight
i took the unit off and carried on flying the model nobar
the 3g has been tested on a trex 600 (eccpm) and is working ok (as well as a 3g does)

[coolice]

Hey.

When entering DIR mode the 3G learns what swash plate type it needs to work with based on the signals it's receiving. In the case of the Raptor it has mCCPM which is mechanical collective cyclic pitch mixing performed on the model by the various linkages and arms.
So in your transmitter set the 1 servo 90 degree swash plate mixing option, this sets individual servos to control a specific flight control. In this case aileron, elevator and collective pitch.

Now enter DIR model and set all your cyclic and collective pitch ranges as per the manual, then leave the sticks in the centre position and move onto the next stage in the setup which is elevator limit set off the top of my head. Go through each step and your cyclic FBL gyros will be set.

Then it's a case of entering the tail gyro menu and setting that correctly.

You must enter DIR mode so the 3G/GX learns what signals it has to work with.
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[disho]

Hey.

When entering DIR mode the 3G learns what swash plate type it needs to work with based on the signals it's receiving. In the case of the Raptor it has mCCPM which is mechanical collective cyclic pitch mixing performed on the model by the various linkages and arms.
So in your transmitter set the 1 servo 90 degree swash plate mixing option, this sets individual servos to control a specific flight control. In this case aileron, elevator and collective pitch.

Now enter DIR model and set all your cyclic and collective pitch ranges as per the manual, then leave the sticks in the centre position and move onto the next stage in the setup which is elevator limit set off the top of my head. Go through each step and your cyclic FBL gyros will be set.

Then it's a case of entering the tail gyro menu and setting that correctly.

You must enter DIR mode so the 3G/GX learns what signals it has to work with.
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Hi when setting up 3g did you leave pitch lead in receiver or did you plug it into the 3g ? setting mine up with raptor 50 but when I apply pitch it is also moving elevator servo, im using a dx7 radio

[KevDavies]

all mixing should be done by the fbl unit!

[coolice]

Hi when setting up 3g did you leave pitch lead in receiver or did you plug it into the 3g ? setting mine up with raptor 50 but when I apply pitch it is also moving elevator servo, im using a dx7 radio

Hey Buddy.

The 3G main box sits between the receiver and the servos, there will be 3 cyclic plugs coming out of the 3G box. The aileron with 3 wires in the plug and elevator & pitch with only a single wire, plug these into the corresponding channels on your chosen receiver. They are marked on the back of each plug, AIL, ELE & PIT.

Now plug your servos into the 3G box, again off the top of my head these are marked or noted in the manual which channel goes in where.

It sounds to me like you have the wrong mixing option set within the transmitter or the 3G has not learnt it only needs to accept 1 servo inputs.
If all else fails, blank/reset the model memory in the transmitter and start again, as this has been known to make things simpler than modifying the current model memory settings.

all mixing should be done by the fbl unit!

Hey Buddy.

Usually yes, but not in the case of the 3G/GX. These rely on the transmitter swash plate mix being set to tell it what mixing type to use such as 1 servo mCCPM or 3 servo 120 degree eCCPM.
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[KevDavies]

Ahh I see!! Yeah my belief was they were all the flight swash mixer aswell as the gyro. Thanks for letting me know Ian. So basically the Align units are just the stabilisation systems. Got it!

[disho]

Hey Buddy.

The 3G main box sits between the receiver and the servos, there will be 3 cyclic plugs coming out of the 3G box. The aileron with 3 wires in the plug and elevator & pitch with only a single wire, plug these into the corresponding channels on your chosen receiver. They are marked on the back of each plug, AIL, ELE & PIT.

Now plug your servos into the 3G box, again off the top of my head these are marked or noted in the manual which channel goes in where.

It sounds to me like you have the wrong mixing option set within the transmitter or the 3G has not learnt it only needs to accept 1 servo inputs.
If all else fails, blank/reset the model memory in the transmitter and start again, as this has been known to make things simpler than modifying the current model memory settings.



Hey Buddy.

Usually yes, but not in the case of the 3G/GX. These rely on the transmitter swash plate mix being set to tell it what mixing type to use such as 1 servo mCCPM or 3 servo 120 degree eCCPM.
.

Just found out the 3g has had a firmware update that's why its not working will have to put it back to 2.1 hopefully that should sort my problem out

[coolice]

Ahh I see!! Yeah my belief was they were all the flight swash mixer aswell as the gyro. Thanks for letting me know Ian. So basically the Align units are just the stabilisation systems. Got it!

Evening Mate.

Yeah Align do things slightly different on their FBL units, it seems to work well.

Just found out the 3g has had a firmware update that's why its not working will have to put it back to 2.1 hopefully that should sort my problem out

Hey buddy.

If it's V3 some got on well with it, but I always found V2.1 was the best for the 3G. It suffered with the odd tail kick, on hotter days I worked out, but was otherwise a great flier.

If need be I have settings files for most model sizes for the 3G.
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[Made2Fade]

apparently version 3 does not work with mccpm and only eccpm... it will need downgraded to V2.1.