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  • All-in-one battery chargers.

    I created a blog on the titled battery chargers but think it may be more useful here, in the beginners section.

    Please bare in mind that this information is for the starter who is not currently interested in parallel or series charging and just want to get going. I have an 80W charger for 3s and below ( non-fan cooled) and a 200W fan cooled for my 6s batteries. The fan is dreadfully noisy and on all the time (hence keeping the 80W.

    Today I’m going to talk about chargers.


    Most beginners to the hobby will be looking for a simple ‘plug it in the mains’ all in one charger typically because they don't want the complication or cost of a separate charger and Power Supply Unit (PSU).


    Typical reasonably priced AC/DC chargers are 50W, 80W and 200W. 80W chargers hit at around £40-50 whilst a 200W charger will cost about £80-90.


    The advertising blurb will often state the maximum current. Like the 80W will be 6A. But this doesn’t mean maximum over all voltages.


    Let me explain: The charger has a POWER rating and for now we’ll say that’s 80W. We’ll also round off the charge voltage figures for when the battery is charging full bore.


    To charge a 3s battery the charge voltage is around the 12V mark so we’ll call it 12V. Divide Watts by Volts to get current. So an 80W charger can charge a 3s battery at a maximum of 80/12 = 6.6A. Call it 6A. Charger will get HOT unless fan cooled.


    To charge a 6s battery the charge voltage is around the 24V mark so we’ll call it 24V. Divide Watts by Volts to get current. So an 80W charger can charge a 6s battery at a maximum of 80/24 = 3.3A. Call it 3A. This is going to make the charger HOT unless it’s fan cooled.


    This whole thing of reducing current as the charge voltage gets higher is called ‘de-rating’. 6A is the maximum rated output on a 3s. To go higher in voltage you need to de-rate that maximum current to stay within the power rating of the charger.


    Obviously, if you want to charge a 6s battery at 6A you are going to require 24*6 = 144W of power, way outside the rating of the charger. To protect itself the charger will ‘fold-back’ it’s output voltage to keep the power within proper limits. This won’t charge your battery as the voltage will fall below the battery voltage.


    Hope that is of some help. Calculate what your charger can do before whacking it with a current requirement it can’t manage.

  • #2
    Good post. I started off with an B606 charger 80w. It has done fairly well considering I am charging 6s batteries and 5 of them. I setup a parallel charge board and could do all in bout 3.5 hours. Has done me for 6 months and worked its butt off.
    I have since got a PL6 and it blew up after 2 weeks. Took a long time to get back but now have back and working and wow. I must say if you are planning on staying in electric helis then you need a decent charger. They are well worth it. Now I just have to get a better power supply, Currently charging my 5x 6s 2600 mah in one hour which is 1/4 what the PL6 is capable off.
    IT all really depends-on what you need to charge and how fast.




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    • #3
      Thanks, Heli. This post is pointed squarely at the starter who is going to be faced with enough new data and just want to fly using the 3 or 4 batteries they have

      If I had been faced with charger, psu and parallel/serial charging at the off I probably would not have got into the hobby. It was the B6AC I have to blame for clearing the way, LOL!

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      • #4
        Yeah the all in one is a good idea for beginners. My b606 needed a power supply and the one I was recommended was not big enough for b606 to run at max. So then got a 500 w one and now with the new charger it's not big enough. Chasing my tail again. Seem to do this a bit.

        If only I read this post 6 months ago :-)




        Goblin 700, Vbar Silverline, Savox SC-1267MG / SB-2272MG.Scorpion opto 130. Align 750mx /450kv
        Trex 500 EFL Pro, DFC, Vbar 5.3 Full Pro.
        CopterX 250 SE FBL, With Align upgrades and 3GX
        JR XG 7
        Mini CP, Heading for retirement.

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