Beginners and New to Heli's ... Read this FIRST

[robgt]

Or a nitro and Phoenix sim...
Sim time through the week, heli flying at the weekends.

The CX2 is a good starting point and cheap enough too. You will learn some good basic skills that are transferable to a larger heli.
That said, the CX2 does make it pretty easy to control - when you step up to a larger heli, that ease goes away to a degree.

Cheers,
Rob

[Puppy]

Thats the big worry, i dont want to play with a CX2 for a month, and go, ohh this is easy. End up getting ahead of myself.

Would you say that a a Trex or a Raptor 30 is a larger heli ? or are you talking larger ?

The thing is, i know a need a challenge to keep me interested and motivated to improve, Of course i understand that it is very hard to learn, but i fel like im takign the " soft " route in with the little CX2, and im gogin to want to start with a large heli to soon. Would this be a mistake on my part ?

I see a lot of posts about peopel starting with the Raptor 30's with a little help, and they all seem to have very good reviews.

I think in my head the CX2 is a " toy " that i will end up gettign bored with.

Compared to the TRex / Raptor that although worth more money i will be able to grow into for a much longer time.

I hope you dont mind all the questions. Just trying to make the right choice, i have been thinking abuot this for 3 months now. About tiem somethign got purchased.

[Guest]

You would find the CX2 a handful in the space you're talking about
You wouldn't handle the T-rex without help as a first heli
Not sure many or anyone could honestly say they could hoover a 450 in a 10 sq foot space
Most would say you are trying to run before you can walk (no matter how quick a learner you are)

[Rodsport999]

Hi Puppy,

I have just brought a HoneyBee King 2 off fleabay for £87 delivered from the land of the rising sun, retails over here for £180ish.

This would be an ideal starter heli, here's a link to a company in england doing nearly a good as deal,

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Honey-Bee-...QQcmdZViewItem

Comes with FMS simulator (not the best but will help you learn to hover) and free
training legs.

Hope this of any help, definately better than a CX2

Cheers Rod

[chappers]

i see there is STILL a load of crap being talked here by people who havent got a clue what they are talking about!

[Rodsport999]

Good to see there are still users bringing the point of this forum down, which is the sharing of experiences, heli's, shops and learning curves.

Thanks to all that contribute worthwhile inputs to this forum,

Regards Rod

[Puppy]

i could not agree more, i have been on quite a few different sites regarding RC heli's adn hundereds on various topic's and to actually have everyone just helping out is fantastic, not sitting back with the " another new guy " attitude.

And you never know, one day i might be sat here helping out the next generation of new guys

Well, on my drive home from work, sat in traffic surfing the net i found the " Blade CP and the Blade CP Pro bigger brothers to the CX2, and i think i might of found just the rigth compromise between cheap to replace and portable learning.

There an extra 50 - 100 pounds and probably harder to get started with, but after reading through various reviews and watching a few you tube video's.

It seems quite stable ( more so with learner balls ) but there are a few vid's of pro's playing with them ( giggling i may add ) but it seems happy enough with some of the more basic advanced flying ( if that makes any sence )

It is small enought to fly in the lounge while i get used to it, and strong enough to battle a light breese outside, by the looks of things anyway.

I think I would be happy to go and buy one.

However i though that about the Raptor30 2 months ago.

And the CX2 just after reading the 1st post of this topic.

Does anyone have one ?

Has anyone tryed one ?

What do you guys think ?

Again, if im wrong, just tell me. I only foudn them 20 mins ago in a traffic jam

Thanks in advance as always

[Tim Procter]

i see there is STILL a load of crap being talked here by people who havent got a clue what they are talking about!

Yeah I noticed that too..

[Puppy]

i see there is STILL a load of crap being talked here by people who havent got a clue what they are talking about!

And who exactly are you refering to ? I dont mean this in a bad way.. i actually mean what is a load of crap ?

Rodsport999 - i was looking at this Blade CP Pro - http://www.hobbyshopworld.com/shoppi...exd.asp?id=179

as well as the Honey Bee King - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Honey-Bee-...QQcmdZViewItem

Specifically regarding that Item, i really liek the training kit / sim software + cable.

But what about when you compare the 2 heli's together ?

There both about the same price ?

Anyone have any experiance with them ? Pro's Con's ?

[Rodsport999]

The problem with the CP is the tail motor, they constantly burn out and to set the little throttle potentiometer is a pain in the backside are they constantly turn in either direction making learning difficult cause you are continually fighting the tail.

The Honeybee's used to have the tail motors but then realised how naff they were so replaced it with a belt driven tail, small rate mode gyro and a slightly more powerful motor.

Basically the same, but the belt driven tail will get you straight into learning about the larger heli's that have these items standard. The tail motor will not regularly burn out and setting up of the heli is a lot easier.

This is personal experience with the tail motors, wish I had never seen one!

Hope this is of help

[Puppy]

Well, i have just finished watching this vid - [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyZbz42xg0w[/ame]

and it seems to do very well, of course i understand that in his hands of course it looks good, but i will have a good read up on them and keep you posted. Ive done so much reading, i want to start flying :P

thanks a lot for the info though. most helpfull.

Just want to make the right choice

[Jamez]

i see there is STILL a load of crap being talked here by people who havent got a clue what they are talking about!

Yeha, come on who do you mean.

Buy the Raptor, Join a Club, learn to fly. Easy.

Go to the club, see what they fly, see if you can get a lesson on a buddy box with a club trainer if they have one, learn to fly

or buy the CX2, and pratt around with it in your living room, learn to fly, but have a big step to go to fly a proper nitro heli.

I strongly advise not learning to hover a nitro in your own garden, it'll make a mess of things like your house and other expensive stuff.

Also you need insurance to fly a nitro ( best to join the BMFA ), and it won't cover you in your garden, so if it flys over the fence and mince's next doors 3 year old pedigree swarf hound ( figeretivly speaking ) you get sue'd for several thousand pounds and you have to cough up outta your ouwn pocket.

[Puppy]

Yeha, come on who do you mean.

Buy the Raptor, Join a Club, learn to fly. Easy.

Go to the club, see what they fly, see if you can get a lesson on a buddy box with a club trainer if they have one, learn to fly

or buy the CX2, and pratt around with it in your living room, learn to fly, but have a big step to go to fly a proper nitro heli.

I strongly advise not learning to hover a nitro in your own garden, it'll make a mess of things like your house and other expensive stuff.

Also you need insurance to fly a nitro ( best to join the BMFA ), and it won't cover you in your garden, so if it flys over the fence and mince's next doors 3 year old pedigree swarf hound ( figeretivly speaking ) you get sue'd for several thousand pounds and you have to cough up outta your ouwn pocket.

Insurace is a good point, but im pretty much set to be staying away from the Nitro until i have some good stick time under me.

I like the look of this hunny bee 2 - probably going to buy one. Been reading reviews for the last 30 mins, and this belt driven tail things seems to be nice.

So im sort of nit pickign at the moment.

also thinking about getting a beter transmiter from the start so i can get used to it i guess ?

Think im gonna go ahead and buy this - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Honey-Bee-...QQcmdZViewItem

And see how it goes. I will put the order in tomorrow morning, unless someone reveals some other pearls of wisdom in the next 12 hours.

Have to start somewhere. Might as well be there.

What do you all think ?

By the way thanks a lot for all the replys. Ive been ummign and arring over this for months.

[Rodsport999]

Spare parts are nice and easy to get for the HoneyBee's, click on this link for spares from England

http://www.buzzflyer.co.uk/

And you can see how much the King2 is normally.

Buy a couple of spare LiPo's then you can hover more often instead of waiting for a charge!

The upgrade parts are very good too for when you are experienced with hovering!

Cheers Rod

[Jamez]

Yep, the only thing i can say about it is, steer clear of CP micros they are fiddle, and crash easy, and although not that expensive for a single crash, once you've piled it up every week for 8 weeks, your gonna be ****ed.