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**Ghost** · 09-04-2007, 04:25 PM

I cant really help to much as i am also relatively new to the sport but the Micron v2 is a bitch to fly, i gave up on mine in frustration as it would not even take off.

Buying a sim was a great thing to do really helps to get to know the transmitter.

I would put that v2 aside for now, go to a club get some lessons on a real size one and see how it all feels.

If inside flying is your thing get the medvac contra great fun for indoors and great to practice nose in on plus so easy to fly and maintain.

Cheers Simon

**osgood232** · 09-04-2007, 07:33 PM

V2

Hello,

Thanks for the advice, I will look into some lessons. However, for now, im determined to get to grips with the V2. My main frustration is how it flies differently at different times, Im pretty sure bad impacts are having an affect on the setup. At one point I was having 15 sec flight times, now its back to having trouble taking off! - im sure something is out of alignment, im just not sure what! lol

Do you know if the sims are similar to the real larger scale models?

**Boggy** · 09-04-2007, 10:07 PM

here!!

your post is titled "where do i start" the answer is right here!! take these guys advice. it will save you a lot of money.
smaller is not always better,i started with a medivac which is great indoors,but you soon want more.next was a minipred which quite frankly was rubbish i kept crashing thinking it was my fault,but it had so many little niggles i got impatient ,gave it full throttle waiting for it to fly it just ran on the ground the blades sounded ace and then whoosh off it went like the space shuttle! lesson learnt the hard way. take advice and listen!!!!!

**Raptormadsteve** · 09-04-2007, 10:52 PM

hi you need to look at individual parts like the main shaft feathering spindle and tail shaft. the best way is to remove the items one at a time and roll them on glass as some may only be slightly out of line but will need replacing and if unsure replace it anyway. will make life a lot easier. Had you asked in te begining what heli in the micro world there are loads... but my advise would be ark x400 or twister 3d or trex 450. but stay away from the blinged versions untill you can fly one properly. also invest in a good tail servo and heading hold gyre like the futaba 401 and 9650. Will make your life much much easier... Regards Steve

**Raptorite** · 10-04-2007, 12:14 AM

I think what the guys here are saying is that the little helis, no matter how good they are, are always harder to fly than the bigger ones. The basic rule of thumb here is a physically larger model with more weight and a bigger rotor disc will be more stable and handle wind better than any of the current breed of micro helis.

There are a few micros around now which arent far off in terms of stability, things like the Thunder Tiger Mini Titan, Trex 450SE V2 and the Dragonus are all fairly good. However, as with most things there is a BUT, in this instance is it simply that to get the best out of a micro heli you will be spending something not that disimilar to a larger and more stable nitro powered model.

Having already tried getting to grips with the little micron you have, the next step might be to search out a local flying school and have a go on a larger nitro powered training model, and see for yourself how much easier they are to fly. Think of it as a try before you buy type arrangement, therefore before commiting money to a model you can see for yourself how it or one very similar will fly.

Cheers,
Pete.

**osgood232** · 10-04-2007, 07:17 PM

thanks

Well theres loads of advice, I think I will look at some flight lessons next, and possibley look at buying another heli.

It seems such a shame that the V2 is tricky to fly, does anyone know of anyone who actually succesfully flys these?

Thanks again for peoples time!

**Raptormadsteve** · 10-04-2007, 07:21 PM

Hi If you are not in a club best advise would be to join one. Also a 30/50 ic or electric will be easier to learn with lecky micro's are great fun but are unstable and twitchy hope you find what your looking for and most of all enjoy the hobby safely.
Regards Steve

**Raptorite** · 10-04-2007, 08:56 PM

If you wanted to see the micron fly, the best way is to seek out a more experienced or even a professional pilot, let them look it over or professionally set it up for you and test fly it.

Your best bet for this would be a club site on a still, wind free day, or esle find a local indoor meet and take it along, someone there should be able to look it over and test fly it for you. As an alternative, when you have some flying lessons, you could take the micron with you and either spend part of your lesson looking over and test flying it or allow the instructor to take the model away with them and professionally set it up for you, they will then test fly it with you when they do the handover, at least thats what I do.

Cheers,
Pete.

**ajenkins** · 10-04-2007, 09:39 PM

See the big Micron V2 threads over on rcgroups.com and rcuniverse.com. This is a very difficult heli to get working well and fly, even for experienced fliers. I'd advise putting in the shelf for a while getting something bigger and easier to setup and fly. If you want something for indoors, get a HoneeBee FP or similar. Should be much easier to setup and repair than the Micron.

**osgood232** · 14-04-2007, 09:35 AM

The V2

Ok Guys,

Thanks for all your valuable help.

Prehaps I forgot to mention that I have just recently purchased a house, so I am currently flat broke! which, for now, rules out lessons and a new heli, however I have taken this advice on board and as my finances balance out I will be doing these things!

But, for now, as I am a very determined guy I have decided to go down the rute of extreme patients!

If any one is interested I have found this site http://www.spookycopters.com/M_En1/m...gl_00003a.html which explains, in detail, any setup issues. I have found this very usefull and actually am having success with the V2!, I can see that this is still tricky, and am interested in a new larger one, but its nice to be slowly getting the hang of the V2.

Thanks for everyones advice - its all onboard!

Paul

**HighlanderJC** · 14-04-2007, 10:21 PM

I started out with a trex 450 HDE in my back garden - it was very hard to fly and had quite a few crashes but none really broke the bank. When u first start flying and have had no help there are two things against you. Inexperience and a badly set up heli, but these forums, when I found them were invaluable, I also joined a club and am lucky enough to have a very experienced heli pilot help me out and keep me straight. The best thing of all was getting the Trex 600 - It held in hover very well and that was the first flight. After some help at the club it will now hover hands off, no trim on the radio at all! I started out April last year, and until I joined a club could only hover a little. I joined last november, I can now do stall turns, pirouettes, and get round the field ok, if only a little faster than I like some times but still in control, and some nose in hover as well. IMHO its join a club, see what they all fly, get some advice, spend well first time round and save £s later. Just my thoughts - hope I didnt rant too much.

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