worth £250????

[heliward0]

RAPTOR 30v2 with OPTIC 6,, duel conv rec,5xhitec hs325hb sevos,,sl310 gyro,,4.6 2200mah battery,,jp carbon fiber main blades,,with plans and manuals ready to fly???you guys are good at this thing,,

[Made2Fade]

Yeh worth it if its all in good condition. Pretty standard though. Will make a good cheap first heli to get into the hobby. What engine has it got? Not too sure about the transmitter, you'd be better of with a Futaba/JR as nearly everyone uses them.
Lee

[heliward0]

i am asuming its the tt39 std kit engine,, first nitro heli for me!!,i own a raptor 50 se(needs a gyro) but would much rather PLANT this 30 than that,,then take gyro and parts out to complete the 50,,

[Ade_Law]

bare in mind this is the "no beating around the bush" reply...

the 310 is pretty nasty
the 325s are pretty nasty
and the optic 6 is well.. erm... worse than pretty nasty.

the cost difference in crashing a raptor 30 and 50 really isnt that great. rather than spending 250ukp on a very cheaply equiped 30. spend 160ukp on a 401 and 9254 for your 50.

Ade

[Made2Fade]

lol... sounds like a plan... id rather have both them flying though. The 30 should be ok but id want more info before i purchased it. Stuff like... how long has the engine seen? Has it been crashed before? How old is it? Would be pointless wasting your money if its gonna be a bag of hammers. Especially when you know the money could go buy you a nice gy401 and 9254 for your 50. And you'd still have cash left for a nice pair of blades or another bit of gear for it. (That would be my route personally)
Lee

[Made2Fade]

Ade you stole my thoughts... lol
Lee

[Ade_Law]

no, you TRIED to steal mine :-)

Ade

[fatmantom]

http://www.bmfaclassifieds.co.uk/detail.php?id=15253

has no tx but you could get it for cheaper than £250 as its ono but very little spec is given

[Ade_Law]

i see people buying second hand stuff all the time. The trouble is even experienced guys get stung. the trouble is for every one worthwhile buy there are 10 of these sorts of models that have hidden problems which are going to cost time and money to fix.

its a mine field even for experienced buyers as a noob your going to be in for a tough time.

i hate adds like the above "its got a gyro" wow thanks! its got JR servos JR servos that could be any one of their servos from 10ukp crap to 80ukp digis... that tells us a lot doesnt it!

you need to know.

1) when it was bought
2) how much flying its done
3)if its been crashed, if yes has it been flown since.
4)what fuel its been run on (if its been run on good fuel the model has probably been well looked after)
5)make and model of the engine
6)make and model of the muffler
7)make and model of all servos and what position they are in
8)make and model of gyro
9)make and model of main blades and paddles if not standard ones.
10)any upgrades fitted

if the person that placed that ad is reading.. its not a personal attack on you, just update the advert with the above info your much more likely to get decent offers and get fewer emails asking you the above!

Ade

[Steve]

2nd hand bargains in the 30/50 stakes are hard to find.

2nd hand bargains in the 90 stakes are everywhere.

Basically, anyone who has owned a 90 is more-than-likely to be a flyer who knows their stuff and even if the heli has been dinked (which I suppose you generally have to expect in this market), it's almost certainly been put back together ok. Furthermore, 30/50 helis hold their 2nd hand value where as the 90s drop like a stone as people are scared of them, can't afford to run them or can't afford to break them.

£250 is also the going rate for a 2nd hand Millennium 90 airframe. Yes, maybe it's a little 'old hat' nowadays, but it's still a fantastically engineered and very very capable machine that will far out-live any Raptor.

I seem to remember Mark Christy trying to sell a 2nd Sylphide 90 on here about a year or more ago for something rediculous like £600. Now the Sylphide might not be up your street if you're into 3D, but if you're into the precision FAI stuff, it don't come much better. And, that heli is in the order of £1500 new for the kit alone, and he was elling it with an absolute bundle of upgrades..... as if a heli like that really needs upgrades? £600 was a bargain for someone - I was sorely tempted at the time, but was (at that stage) still scared of the idea of a 90.

[heliward0]

bare in mind this is the "no beating around the bush" reply...

the 310 is pretty nasty
the 325s are pretty nasty
and the optic 6 is well.. erm... worse than pretty nasty.

the cost difference in crashing a raptor 30 and 50 really isnt that great. rather than spending 250ukp on a very cheaply equiped 30. spend 160ukp on a 401 and 9254 for your 50.

Ade

yea but would you rather plant £250 or £600 quid heli!!!! i say £250 and its not IF its WHEN i plant it!!!

[Ade_Law]

a 600ukp heli wont cost any more or less than a 250ukp bag of poo.

trust me i have done both :-)

Ade

[Biggles]

A new heli you know is going to be ok (well it should be). A second hand one could be on it's last legs and pack up when you have your first go.

Would you not prefer to crash it knowing it was your own mistake? or have a servo or whatever pack up and there is naff all you can do about it?

Just food for thought....you get what you pay for etc etc etc etc etc.

At the end of the day it's your choice......how's it go....if in doubt leave it out....well something to that effect!

[Ade_Law]

about 85-90% of the second hand gear i see people bring to the club has been rubbish require many hours of rebuild and selling off the rubbish it came with and buying decent electronics. at least half of those cost more to sort out than it would have cost to buy new and would have been a lot less hassle.

Ade

[heliward0]

a 600ukp heli wont cost any more or less than a 250ukp bag of poo.

trust me i have done both :-)

Ade

corse it will wot if my gyro and servos get smashed to shit!!!!( i am a begginer remember)