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    Thanks to everyone so far for your help, My Phoenix is now up and running and the engines make a noise...............Small victory .............
    But tell me is it really as difficult to hover the reall heli's as it is on the sim??????? I may be driven to flying KITE !

  • #2
    First things first - just try and keep it a few feet off the ground, tail in towards you at all times, and in one place, not drifting away anywhere.

    That's step 1.
    JR Vibe Fifty fb (YS56)

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    • #3
      theres a fair bit going on. use the hover training.

      Ade
      www.accurc.com
      adrian@accurc.com
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      anybody can be an Arsehole, it takes real commitment, dedication and a whole lot of effort to be nice.

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      • #4
        which one are you trying to learn on? whats your tx
        cheers Lee


        If it ain't broke fix it until it is
        yes i'm an idiot and no i couldn't care any less

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        • #5
          Ive been trying to hover the (not so) easyfly 50 and the spark trainer using my Futaba T9CP (which I havent started tryng to understand or program yet)
          But I find it hard to stop the heli's from getting to high and then were off over the fields ????????????????????????

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          • #6
            Just try little hops, tail in 18" -2' off the ground, gradualy your hops get longer and then youre hovering. dont try to keep it in a small space, let it wander a bit just keep it level and land lightly. As you get better try to bring it back to you slowly before you land. The key I found, is tiny movements of the sticks.

            Thats how was taught on my real heli but it should work on the sim as well. Its worth turning the wind on to gust lightly but frequently as this effects the height of the heli and its much more realistic.

            good luck
            Col.

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            • #7
              Believe me you would rather be doing it on the sim rather than with a real one like I did. Doh!
              Dave sigpic Proud owner of an E G S
              T-Rex 500ESP FBL Beastx
              T-Rex 450SE V2
              Futaba 7c 2.4ghz
              Cell-Pro Power Lab 8 & Cell-Pro 10S

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bobtheburn View Post
                Ive been trying to hover the (not so) easyfly 50 and the spark trainer using my Futaba T9CP (which I havent started tryng to understand or program yet)
                But I find it hard to stop the heli's from getting to high and then were off over the fields ????????????????????????
                When you use the throttle is it notchy?

                If it is notchy read the 9c Manual they include a rachet that will smooth away
                the notchy feel.

                This will help you find the hover point easier.

                amazing enough you will want to be between the notch.
                Mark
                www.uavaerialservices.co.uk
                BNUCs - Operations certified
                CAA - Permit for Aerial Work

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                • #9
                  Just a word of encouragement - don't worry just keep at it.

                  1 Keep the heli close always. If it gets away from you just hit the "B" button and start again.

                  2 Think of a heli like balancing a ball bearing on a piece of glass. Just imagine how you would do that. Small movements not for too long and EARLY.

                  3 Expect it to take up all your brain power at first. As soon as you start to gloss over (it will happen) have a break from it. Come back later and try again.

                  4 Gentle movements, don't get used to dropping the throttle too quick either.

                  5 Keep it tail in ALL the time.

                  You will learn to hover I promise!
                  Slow Mo Blade 550x

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                  • #10
                    If it was that easy - it would be easy peasy to fly real helicopters no? And we would all be flying to work?

                    I've heard flying electric micro helicopters described as "balancing a marble on a pin" not sure about that, bit it sure does take 100% concentration to start with - you really can not release your mind from the heli for a second.

                    As it is - stick with it and absorb the advice given on this site and you will soon be hovering nice. You can be doing it for 20 years and still be learning things - so dont expect to be an expert in a few hours!

                    Have fun

                    Butuz
                    Heli 1: Mikado Logo 400 3D
                    Heli 2: RCer Dragonus 450
                    DX7SE / Cellpro 10s Keeping me in the air!!!
                    Gaer Park Model Flying Club

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                    • #11
                      I would practice with the Trex 600 or buzzard 50 if you have not downloaded any updates......... something big, stable and responsive.
                      Last edited by Nutz; 15-02-2007, 12:46 AM.
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                      • #12
                        Download the Co-axial Lama,that's a real steady helicopter.If it's still too much,try turning the sim speed down to about 65% in the settings menu.

                        Allan

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                        • #13
                          Its ther same with the real heli's every time you think youve got it and start to relax there they go off over the fields and into the distance but definately worth perservering.
                          Helis:

                          Knight50 Pro: OS50H, REVLOCK 10, 401, CURTIS PIPE.
                          Raptor 30 V1: (on the wardrobe)
                          Trex450V2: Hytec65s's,401 with 9250, Revolution 3s2200 bateries.
                          Medivac & Easycopter V2

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                          Planks:
                          Tutor 40 trainer
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                          • #14
                            It must be really fun learning to fly using a sim .

                            if only they were available when I started, hell we didn't even have heli radios.
                            And think of all that fuel we burned just hopping from one side of the field to the other.

                            Good luck, and stick with it, once you master hovering on the sim, you will find the real one just as easy.

                            Just remember small hops to start with and be careful with the throttle try not to bang the stick down too hard.

                            Pete
                            We don't stop playing because we grow old,
                            we grow old because we stop playing.....

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                            • #15
                              you may - to start with - just to get used to the controls, reduce the environmental settings in the sim - remove the wind for example or any wind gusts, as these will dramatically alter the way the heli performs.

                              It's a good idea to learn about the heli in as small a step as you can, get used to the orieantation and function of the controls first, then add in other elements like 'real' wind...

                              I'm not sure but does phoenix allow you to only control one stick while it does the other? like having a trainer standing next to you on a buddy box? If so, you might like to do that.

                              but keep it close to you, I find the sim difficult as the depth perception is poor. but it way better than nothing and makes real sense to percivere with it. I can now hover my sim well, and upside down but I'm nowhere near as brave in real life - lol.

                              Good luck and stick at it.

                              Mikey - now legless!!
                              I can hover(ish) - does that count??

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