What TRex - Confused :S

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Ok I need your help.

Im looking at buying a TRex, as I have seen them in action and compared to the Honey Bee King i was originally going to purchase i was in schock at how impressive they are.

Problem is I have three different options, and im confused on what the differences is between them.
Can you advise me which one to get - and what the differences in what each bundle supplies is. Thank you

TRex 450XL (CDE) CCPM Kit $169.99 http://www.helidirect.com/product_in...roducts_id=196

TRex 450XL (HDE) Kit $169.99
http://www.helidirect.com/product_in...roducts_id=302

TRex 450XL (HDE) Kit + 420LF3200 + 25A ESC $239.99
http://www.helidirect.com/product_in...roducts_id=303



Also can you please tell me how easy it is to configure a T-Rex, as this will be my first time owning a "Build yourself kit".
Or - should I just scrap the idea of the T-Rex and get a Honey Bee King like i originally planned to fly straight out the box. Just I feel I will be losing a lot of advantages not buying the T-Rex for a similiar or cheaper price (depending what model).

P.S I will primarily flying the helicopter outside if that helps.

Thanks again.

[amnesia]

I am far from an expert, but seeing as I am considering the same model(s) I can help a little bit...

The CDE model uses electronic CCPM mixing, the HDE is mechanical mixing (ie uses levers and pivots to control the flying surfaces).

Check out www.trextuning.com for loads of info :-)

[Ade_Law]

where do you plan on flying the heli? Flying any heli in a park isnt very safe due to it being a heli it will get a lot of interest from general public dogs etc. And have the ability to do a lot of damage.

kitting a trex out properly with all the right gear will cost you as much as a 30 size heli such as a raptor. They are also more finicky to setup than a glow powered helicopter.

the differences between the first 2 has already been mentioned. I would personally go for the CDE the mechanical mix on the trex is quite sloppy.

the third is mechanical mix version including a motor and speed controller.

micro helis are not great learning machines. they are finicky, sloppy, unstable and susceptable to wind.

Ade

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In regarding the question on where to fly the helicopter. For practising small hovers I have a large garden, and once i become more advance I know the owner of some privatly owned farming fields I am allowed to use.

Well, my budget really does not extend any further than a electric helicopter so a bigger scalled one I will not be able to have.

So, my main question here is do I go with the Honey bee King or for less money will i get more enjoyment and satisfaction out of the Trex CCPM kit? I just worry the mass amount of setting up needed with the Trex (such as aligning).

[Smoothound]

In regarding the question on where to fly the helicopter. For practising small hovers I have a large garden, and once i become more advance I know the owner of some privatly owned farming fields I am allowed to use.

Well, my budget really does not extend any further than a electric helicopter so a bigger scalled one I will not be able to have.

So, my main question here is do I go with the Honey bee King or for less money will i get more enjoyment and satisfaction out of the Trex CCPM kit? I just worry the mass amount of setting up needed with the Trex (such as aligning).

Using your garden is fine for quick setups, I do it all the time but I always use a frequency scanner before I start and hope all others locally do the same. I've not had a problem yet but it only takes someone nearby to fire up their bird on your channel and you could very quickly be ducking and then picking up a mangled mess at best, worst case is not a nice thought GET A SCANNER at least then you have some sort of warning system but it will add around £50 to your budget.


Your budget is irrelevant. The setup cost in real terms between a good flying Trex and a 30 size Raptor nitro are similar, if you think the Trex is cheaper you will be surprised. Good quality battery packs are around £40, give at best 10mins in the air and need a cool down period and then at least 45 mins to recharge. So to fly a few packs in a row you will need at least 3 if not more packs and a good charger.

NB. Ade knows his stuff but baths and showers in Nitro so he is slightly biased to the smelly side. I'm indifferent as I have both

[Ade_Law]

Dont forget to add gyro etc onto the trex.

Futaba 7c Radio: 150ukp
Good Reciever: 45ukp
battery: 40ukp
Charger: 50ukp
4x servos: 60ukp
Futaba 401 gyro:100ukp
and of course the heli with esc and motor: 180ukp

total: 625ukp

You can do it cheaper with cheaper components but its not recomended.

Now lets see how much a Raptor 30 costs

Futaba 7c kit, includes 4 servos, rx and battery: 200ukp
401 with 9254 servo: 160ukp
Engine and heli: 307ukp
Starter: 25ukp
Glow clip: 10ukp
Fuel pump, 10ukp
Fuel: 15ukp

Total 727ukp

So as you can see, for another 100ukp you get something that is much easier to fly, much nicer to fly.

Ade

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If you have a Trex while nice once setup right they come no where like
the Nitros for stabilty.

I have a Twister 3D = small than Trex - twitchy as anything not as solid
breaks often on hard landings.

Trex vs Raptor 30 Raptor is so much more solid in the air, T-rex while nice hovers okay but cannot handle the wind like the Raptor.

Batterys and charger are a Killer for Trex They add 35 pounds per Li-Po
for 12-15mins flight. So you want 2-3 plus a good charger.

Fuel wise a Gallon 15 pounds max and you will get 15-20min flights and
a lot of them.

Oh Raptor vs Pred Gasser well the Pred just so much more stable its amazing.

As for Costs what is your Total budget?

As the guys have all said a well kitted Trex costs the same as a Raptor 30
there is no contest Raptor wins hands down.

One last thing Trex or Raptor get BMFA insurance and JOIN a CLUB.

You can go cheaper Nitro helis like Hawk pro (Ade is now curesing)
Cheaper engine SC 32... etc you can go cheaper but then the quality
of what you have goes down as well....


But as we all say if you browse the Forums you'll see we recomend Nitro
size over Trex as small the Heli the harder to fly is the cut and short of it.

[Ade_Law]

i would recomend not going below spec i mentioned. Hawks are Evil, Not even seen an SC engine in a heli and the SC plane i have played with have been crap.

Ade

[Nightlore]

a raptor with a SC engine is called a scraptor i only use OS engines

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thanks for everyones input - i really appreciate it.

My budget is quite low, reason being I am not getting into the RC hobby mainstream. All i wanted was to get a RC helicopter to play with when its nice outdoors in the UK - I understand about crashes and repairs but I am willing to pay these fees.

Orginally i was looking at getting a Honey Bee CP2 after reading many reviews and seeing all i want it for - fitted perfectly. Although just before I orderd I noticed the Honey Bee King, and in comparison with price and perfomance it won hands down. I thought I'd rather pay the little bit extra to get that so much more, even though it is slightly out of what i was originally planning to buy for just a "toy".
While I was scanning the net after ordering my Honey Bee King, i viewed some videos on the TRex, and i was amazed at how nimble and powerful they are in the sky. I started looking at prices but was confused at which model does what, hence the original reason for this thread.

Now I understand how needy the TRex's are to set up for perfomance I think I will go back to getting the Honey Bee King.

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Toggle: T-rex are not set up for performance at all but they can do it and
are more stable than the other micro Helis.

Twister 3D is the better option than the Honey Bee King as you get all servos with it and the motor. Cost 129.99. Still needs battery, gyro, Tranny though.