Electric or nitro - 600E or N?

[gramey]

I'm still new to all this, read pretty useless, but I think I'm getting the bug, my question is I currently have a Blade CX2 & 400 3D so do I stick with electric or go to a nitro with the next one?
Personally I prefer the cleanliness of electric but a couple of people I know are saying I should go to a nitro, are they just biased or is there a sound reason to going ntiro.
Any advice appreciated.

[cambs flyer]

Its a very personal thing, it can be classed in two actions.

Going electric is more expensive to start with, buying a quality charger to care for your batts, building up a Li Po collection, plus unless you have loads of batts (around 8) a Nitro machine can land fuel up again & again, but long term Leccy its cheaper.

Nitro again land and fuel till you run out, its messy and makes far more noise and is more expensive to run long term, but you don't run out of Li Po's

But in all honesty after about 3-4 batts the old brain box needs a rest, and the deals with Li Po's is getting cheaper all the time, plus you'll get away flying an electric safely in a park where as a Nitro because of the extra noise may become problematic.

This is just my personal view and doesn't reflect on anyone else.

[MrB]

It's a age old question and there are no defo' answers...

If your young, still learning and need a stack of 'stick time' nitro is the way forward, unless you've a grand or more spare to chuck at lipos.

Once it comes down to performance, electric is king- my 10 cell mikado is chucking out over 5hp on a bird weighing 3.2kg- trying to hang on is a different matter


Mark.

[callum]

I maybe wrong here, but Nitro tends to be more stable and can handle a little more wind then electric

but i maybe wrong

[Steve]

Have you been in Galaxy's recently? I understand there are a couple of 2nd hand 600Es in there for sale at the moment, and a 600N Sport possibly due to come in very soon with pretty much everything in it, ready to fly.

[cambs flyer]

It's a age old question and there are no defo' answers...

If your young, still learning and need a stack of 'stick time' nitro is the way forward, unless you've a grand or more spare to chuck at lipos.

Once it comes down to performance, electric is king- my 10 cell mikado is chucking out over 5hp on a bird weighing 3.2kg- trying to hang on is a different matter


Mark.

£1000 on Li Po's!! that's a bit misleading if your flying small birds like the 450's or 500's?

[richieclarkie]

In reality many people want to start with electric, but then they realise that nitro is better, cheaper and allows you to get more stick time.

Well assuming you are going to Join a club, then I'd defintely get a TREX 600Nitro Super Pro or a Knight 3D. Speak to the people you know who run nitro and they can show you what you need to get started.

If you are going it alone then get a 500 Sized heli like the TREX 500 and buy 2 or 3 packs (Approx £300) plus decent Charger (Cellpro 10s) and take it from there.

BTW callum: Helis are stable more to do with size than being electric or nitro. It's mainly down to weight. For instance a 600e and 600N are about the same in stability, but it also depends on the way they are setup. In general though bigger is more stable.

[cambs flyer]

You can buy 4 5S 4000mah maxp's for £300, with 150+ cycles thru each if you take care of them.

[gramey]

Have you been in Galaxy's recently? I understand there are a couple of 2nd hand 600Es in there for sale at the moment, and a 600N Sport possibly due to come in very soon with pretty much everything in it, ready to fly.

Whereabouts are you? Strange you should mention Galaxy's as that's exactly where I was looking at the two 600E's, I'm popping back tomorrow. My wife swears I should have a bed there as between our cars and now heli's I spend more time there than at home. I'm going to try and pop along to a local club on Sunday and see how it should be done.
Do you know the owner/s of the two 600E's and which would be the better to go for? PM me if you don't want to upset another member of this forum with the reply.

[Three6ty]

Hi,
I was in the same boat as you a few weeks ago.
See my thread HERE
Loads of great advice. As you can see I ended up with the Rex 600 NSP. Took me ages to decide though and at my stage of flying I was very unsure of such a big investment. I maidened her tonight and boy am I glad I got a Rex. It's just superb even at my level of flying.
If you've got the cash and fancy a rex go for it. You will not regret it.
Cheers, Rich

[gramey]

Three6ty, Thanks for that I should have done a better search and hence not needed to duplicate another thread, doh!
I was actually leaning toward the 600E until I saw someone mention on your thread that they've just bought the 600E and find it lacking in power and are looking at upgrading the motor and esc already. Not what you want to hear when if like me your budget is limited, actually much to my wife's disgust there wasn't really a budget in the first place.
Having just built the 1/8 brushless truggy shown in my avatar I know how expensive electrics can be and I don't really want to be buying something that I'll immediately pull the electrics out of. On the other hand I looked at a 2nd hand nitro in the shop that looked nice and clean but when you poked your fingers in and around they came out covered in oil,yuk.

[Steve]

Whereabouts are you? Strange you should mention Galaxy's as that's exactly where I was looking at the two 600E's,

Funny that.

I'm at the other end of the county.

A club mate of mine is probably about to put a 600 Sport up for sale, and will probably do it through Galaxy's.

Note the use of 'probably'

[Dashik]

You have to decide if your flying will max out the motor etc.

If your good enough then it may be a problem. If not then why worry about it?

Theres a lot to be said for plug and go

[Bell 206]

I must say I intend to go nitro ASAP - I am finding the E-Flite Blade MCX indoor electric heli very challenging, though very good to start on! I find it very stable/responsive for such a small machine and hope an intermediate size nitro heli will be similar (on a training pad). Its all good experience to lead to my ultimate goal of flying the Kalt Jetranger..

[gramey]

You have to decide if your flying will max out the motor etc.

If your good enough then it may be a problem. If not then why worry about it?

Theres a lot to be said for plug and go

Thanks, that's what I like to hear, unlikely at my level I'll max out the motor, of the two 2nd hand ones I'm looking at one has the standard motor and one the XL motor, both Align, is there much difference between the two?