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    Hi all,
    I just got A Trex 450 up and running (after some difficulty) I cant really fly yet and so i just hovered it in tha back garden .. just for a second or 2 to make sure i had i t set up the mini K-Bar etc right, seems ok..

    Now its a flybarless heli and i think i tread somewhere that you should not use training legs on an FBL heli?
    I used them on my MCPX but as its prone to shake in flight, this just amplifies the problem with the legs on, when i took the training legs of my MCPX i can fly it much better..

    so i suppose my question is.. should i use training legs on my Trex 450 FBL ?

    and if not, when Should training legs / gear be used ? flybarred helis only ?

    cheers rob
    Last edited by rob12770; 30-07-2015, 11:40 AM.
    Trex 450 FBL
    Mcpx V2
    Foam plane sports Cub S
    Spektrum DX6I
    Phoenix sim
    Tarot 250 Quadcopter

  • #2
    I can't answer your question because I have never used any training gear on my helis. But it sounds like you can already competently take off, hover and land, so it sounds to me like you have no need for training gear ;-)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Thor View Post
      I can't answer your question because I have never used any training gear on my helis. But it sounds like you can already competently take off, hover and land, so it sounds to me like you have no need for training gear ;-)
      yeah maybe, but im not sure how "competently "
      Trex 450 FBL
      Mcpx V2
      Foam plane sports Cub S
      Spektrum DX6I
      Phoenix sim
      Tarot 250 Quadcopter

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      • #4
        Originally posted by rob12770 View Post
        yeah maybe, but im not sure how "competently "
        I guess only time will tell.

        One thing is almost certain though: you will find the 450 much easier to fly than the MCPX.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Thor View Post
          I guess only time will tell.

          One thing is almost certain though: you will find the 450 much easier to fly than the MCPX.
          yeah hopefully , but did dumb down the MCPX rates to make it more docile..
          Trex 450 FBL
          Mcpx V2
          Foam plane sports Cub S
          Spektrum DX6I
          Phoenix sim
          Tarot 250 Quadcopter

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          • #6
            Nope, if you've already taken off, hovered and landed then there's absolutely no need for training gear. Just take your time learning, make sure you're comfortable with your hovering orientations and you'll be fine :-)

            Once you're used to it you should find that anything you can do on the mCPX is much easier on the 450.
            Helis: Oxy 2 FE / Oxy 2 Sport / Protos 380 / Oxy 4 Max / Gaui X3 380mm
            Electronics:
            Spartan VX1e / Spartan VX1n / Spartan VX1p / MSH Brain2 mini / Jeti DS-14
            Sims: Realflight / AccuRC
            / Phoenix RC (Wireless) | AccuRC (Wireless) | Realflight (Wireless)

            Team rep for Lynx/Oxy, Founder of NightWave Systems, #450guy

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            • #7
              thanks , yes its all nose out at the moment..all in good time i guess
              cheers rob
              Trex 450 FBL
              Mcpx V2
              Foam plane sports Cub S
              Spektrum DX6I
              Phoenix sim
              Tarot 250 Quadcopter

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              • #8
                I'd agree with the above posts, if you can hover an MCPX then you should be good to go with the 450 without training gear, that the same way I approached it essentially using the MCPX as my training tool.

                Take it slow and steady, practise new stuff on the MCPX before trying it on the 450 and if you haven't got one look at investing in a simulator (Pheonix, next real flight....)

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                • #9
                  yep MCPX cheap for parts .. cheers for the tips , already got phoenix etc mate
                  Trex 450 FBL
                  Mcpx V2
                  Foam plane sports Cub S
                  Spektrum DX6I
                  Phoenix sim
                  Tarot 250 Quadcopter

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                  • #10
                    450 cheap for parts also, heli flys so much better without training gear, so if you don't need it,don't use it, it will help your hovering mprove

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rob12770 View Post
                      thanks , yes its all nose out at the moment..all in good time i guess
                      cheers rob
                      I'd recommend getting to the stage you know all the core orientations on the mCPX before you do too much on the 450. Once you know your orientations you have an ability to recover from situations you're not comfortable with - you can always drop back to a stable hover. Just work on slowly turning the nose a little left and right from the hover, it'll feel uncomfortable but you'll find it slowly starts to feel more natural.

                      Without those core orientation skills finding a 450 accidentally pointing towards yourself is not a good thing :-)
                      Helis: Oxy 2 FE / Oxy 2 Sport / Protos 380 / Oxy 4 Max / Gaui X3 380mm
                      Electronics:
                      Spartan VX1e / Spartan VX1n / Spartan VX1p / MSH Brain2 mini / Jeti DS-14
                      Sims: Realflight / AccuRC
                      / Phoenix RC (Wireless) | AccuRC (Wireless) | Realflight (Wireless)

                      Team rep for Lynx/Oxy, Founder of NightWave Systems, #450guy

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                      • #12
                        I quite like my fluoro balls, and they don't seem to upset the handling of this (my) FBL T-Rex 450 Pro...

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-ucSgDI-9U

                        My view is that whatever works for you is right. If you want to take them off/put them on, then do. But don't do it just because everyone says you should.

                        Of course, I'm a contrary ^&*(...
                        Yes, it's th@ tw@ Scallyb@...

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                        • #13
                          I used them on my 550 and the thing would vibrate like crazy but it certainly gave some confidence while learning to hover, the heli is far easier to fly without the balls but I am certain they saved me a few hundred quid in spares.
                          Trex 500 Flybarless - Kbar
                          Agile 5.5 - MSH Brain
                          Goblin 630 - Vbar
                          Hirobo Lama SA315B
                          New DX6
                          JR XG8

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                          • #14
                            If it's the first fly of a newly built heli, and you are not confident about rescuing yourself from an unexpected event, then fit the training gear. If it hovers okay and everything is as expected, then land and take them off.
                            Graham

                            Protos Max V2 800 conversion. Bavarian Demon 3SX
                            Compass 7HV V1 Bavarian Demon 3SX
                            Titan X50E Bavarian Demon 3SX
                            Trex 500L Bavarian Demon 3SX
                            Trex 450SE Flybar
                            Align M470 Multi with GoPro, G2 Gimbal, Align OSD/FPV Tx, APS-M
                            Futaba 14SG

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