Glue and lubricant

[TruH]

Hi everyone. This is my first post.

After seeing my some adults flying rc heli's I am mesmerised into this hobby.

I am a total beginner and have brought the Raptor 30 v2 ARF. As u know already it comes pre built. I am in the middle of setting up things (slowly). The problem is that I am very sceptic about the screws/nuts, etc that were already on. I have heard people recommend using glue (metal 2 metal and super glue), but does this apply to all points or just certain areas, e.g. the main shaft and blade areas. I can't even imagine the areas around the engine part.

I suppose that's what u get with an ARF version. The thing is I'm not worried about crashing it if it's my fault (I would be learning from it), but if it crashes due to screws/nuts falling off because of factory installation I would be very ****ed.

What I would like to know is
Anyone have experienced of ARF version, any tips, etc?
Should I use glue on the bolts used for holding the rotor blades and tail blades?

My next question is I noticed that the metal that moves the tail blades are along 3 guides made from plastic, should I lubricate those parts?

I afraid that they're plastic so am not too confident.

[chappers]

do the instructions mention locktite (glue!) at all? im sure it will tell you about lubrication somewhere! (maintenance section?). if not down load the kit version instructions and read it then read it again then just before you put it down read it once more! if theres something your not sure about, dont just think "that will do!" ASK! thats what we are here for.
just dont rush it, enjoy the build then enjoy the flying im sure youll do well.

[TruH]

Thanks 4 reply chappers. I re-read several more times including downloaded manual. I noticed it does mention about gluing the main rotor blades to the plastic holders with epoxy glue. But no mention of lubricants at all. Oops I did find a small note in check list: libricate all moving parts. Hey, but unfortunately, this doesn't exactly tell u recommendations of lubricate types/brands, etc for plastics.

lol

[antsis]

I use a teflon based oil on the main and tail shafts. The nearest equivalent is probably sewing machine oil. Other guys will have their preferred types. You can use normal 3 in 1, but very sparinglyThe thing to remember is not to over do it. I find that if you put the oil on a rag and wipe the shaft, that's sufficient. Too much oil collects dust and becomes sludge. The same applies to the gears. When I started out, I was told to grease all the gears. When I got to the field, it was a different story. you can grease the gears that are inside housings, eg. tail gearbox, but the gears open to the air such as the mains, should be dry. Grease will collect dust and grit, which likes to wear nylon gears.

hope this helps

Ant

[Jamez]

Oil / Grease

I to have been told not to grease any of the main gears (as where I fly is very gritty) but on place I have been told it is important to lube is the tail pitch slider (the ring that has the 2 screws into it which moves the tail) as there direct contact between a sliding staionary part and a rotating shaft. Whilst we are on this subject can you use a silcon/ teflon based spray that goes on dry on other moving parts? and would there be any benifit?

[TruH]

Thanks 4 advice.

You can use normal 3 in 1, but very sparingly

I agree with you points, but especially not the 3-in-1. This I have full experienced on, I once tried it on a PC fan and after just 10 mins the heat made it go hard and it lost it's lubrication ability, basically 3 in 1 does not resist heat.

[Dedcalm]

Use locktite 242 which is a thread lock compound on the parts that need it (as per manual). basically anything that is metal bolt into metal. So head block and engine for a start.

hope this helps... I use a silicone grease when required but only in tiny amounts as like its been already said it will collect grit and wear to parts.

Rob

[antsis]

I thought 3 in 1 oil would have been too thick for a pc fan anyway. When I said you could use it, I did mention that it should be used sparingly and lightly wiped on with a rag. The reason I also mentioned it last was more to say that it could be used if nothing else was available. I also think you will find that the heat buildup on the main and tail shafts would not be as high as on a pc fan.

If you can get silicon/teflon based oil so much the better. Otherwise I would go with sewing machine oil as the next alternative.