3d flying

[Pj1969]

Just wanted to know, where to start with trying 3d?? Had a little look on the tube, found a couple of useful ones, but wanted a break down of the menovers if poss? I did look at Bert Kammerer's dvd, but not sure that's a little to complex, has anyone seen it?? Don't panic it will be only on the sim for now, before trying it for real. Any tips or help, great fully received, but please if you only have sarcy comments keep them to your self.

[JoeBailey]

When you say 3d what do you mean?

Whats your current flying style? Can you do forwards/backwards flight both right way and inverted? Loops rolls flips etc.

Need a little more info before giving advice on which direction to take.

Sorry if it sounds nasty

Joe

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[PorscheBoy]

Have a look at the smacktalk vids (You will need to download, but they are very cheap). They take you from early stages through, but as noted above, you will need some flying skills already.

SmackTalk RC

[SaneAdam]

Just wanted to know, where to start with trying 3d?? Had a little look on the tube, found a couple of useful ones, but wanted a break down of the menovers if poss? I did look at Bert Kammerer's dvd, but not sure that's a little to complex, has anyone seen it?? Don't panic it will be only on the sim for now, before trying it for real. Any tips or help, great fully received, but please if you only have sarcy comments keep them to your self.

I watched the Bert vids early on and it terrified me. No matter how many times i watched them i didn't get it. But thats because i did not have all of my orientations down. I decided to just hammer orientations on the sim and with the 450 and msr for ages. Very basic stuff. Just drilling all the stick movements in. After a year a went back to the vids and it all made sense. Progress was very rapid for me after that.

At the start of the Smack Talk vids it does say that job one is to get comfortable in all orientations. Then to really master backwards flight. To be honest, once i had done that, i didn't need the vids or tutorials. It just all clicks the more orientations you master. Time scale will be different for everyone depending how much time they have to commit to practice and stick time

[iceuk]

Hi, I'm no 3D guru but you really do need to be comfortable in both upright and inverted orientations, circles are a good test as well, both forwards and backwards upright and inverted, I have been flying for three years and I am a casual flyer and only recently can now do inverted circuits but then I am a lazy ass, sim is like needles in eye balls and I only fly in nice weather (-;

When I started to fly at first I use to try and do a bit of 3D but if it went pear shaped I just couldnt recover in time, where as now I not that bad, probably last time I crashed was April this year and racked up a hundreds flight since then, so I really wouldn't worry about trying to do 3D try and nail the basics, upright and inverted orientations forwards and backwards circles, if you can do that then when you come to do 3D it don't matter if you mess is up you will have the skill to recover.

Hope that helps,

[Pj1969]

Yeah doing circuits and just started inverted in the sim, really wana just look at basics and early stages and importantly stick positions etc. even if I do t start flying it just yet, be good to see sticks and what motion does what if you get what I mean?

[Pj1969]

Some good advise guys cheers, I'll spend some time on sim and get orientations normal and inverted like advised. Thanks

[SaneAdam]

Some good advise guys cheers, I'll spend some time on sim and get orientations normal and inverted like advised. Thanks

That is the way to do it. Good attitude. There are no shortcuts. You can cut corners in your learning sure, but IMO it will hinder you in the future without you always realising. Master all orientations and you will have TOTAL control. At that point you can really start to express yourself

[jimmyhorns]

I would stop looking at 3D and as others have said, start working on your orientations.

I would look at at least learning the BMFA B test, even if you dont sit it. It is very useful for learning how to fly slowly, and precisely, both of which are important for tidy 3d.

I would then start learning these moves in different orientations, and then inverted. (im at this stage).

Then I would start moving into '3d'.

Im starting on a few bits and pieces for grass roots this year, but you can basically forget piroetting moves until you learn your orientations in both inverted and right side up.

[Pj1969]

I would stop looking at 3D and as others have said, start working on your orientations.

I would look at at least learning the BMFA B test, even if you dont sit it. It is very useful for learning how to fly slowly, and precisely, both of which are important for tidy 3d.

I would then start learning these moves in different orientations, and then inverted. (im at this stage).

Then I would start moving into '3d'.

Im starting on a few bits and pieces for grass roots this year, but you can basically forget piroetting moves until you learn your orientations in both inverted and right side up.

brilliant advise, that's why I asked on here. I'm never going to be a goblin smacker, but like the sound of slow flying to learn orientations. Thanks again

[milly0812]

There's an old saying about learning to run before you can walk and I'm not being condescending. Me, I really wanted to do the flippy floppy stuff so I just did it and it has cost me a fortune lol. I can do funnels and hurricanes and messy piro flips but ask me to do a slow pirouette on the spot or a perfect fig 8 in both directions and I'm buggered ! Why? Because I didn't go through the motions and nail my orientations first and now I wish I had. It's not too late for me but all those thousands of pounds in parts are never coming back

[acidla]

Just wanted to know, where to start with trying 3d?? Had a little look on the tube, found a couple of useful ones, but wanted a break down of the menovers if poss? I did look at Bert Kammerer's dvd, but not sure that's a little to complex, has anyone seen it?? Don't panic it will be only on the sim for now, before trying it for real. Any tips or help, great fully received, but please if you only have sarcy comments keep them to your self.

These lessons are what you are looking for! Learning upright hovering - RC heli flight school v1.1 - YouTube

Just watch the sequence of his RC heli flight school vids.

Cheers!

[nickwap]

I'm trying to learn orientations right now, it is far from easy but slowly its coming together. I set a target each time I go flying, sorting on backwards and inverted right now. Not stuffed it yet been close though!

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[KevDavies]

Im no 3d guru.... Infact im 3d clod (cos I keep crashing LOL) But yeah get your orientations sorted upright and inverted. and learn to fly forwards and backwards in upright and inverted.

And when you start doing aerobatics start with the simple stuff loops, barrel rolls, stall turns. Again do them upright, inverted, forwards and backwards

Then I would advise stationary flips and rolls, funnels and hurricanes again all orientation (im at this point in my flying really, I can do more but its not what I would call neat)

Then your onto the advanced stuff piroflips etc and youd need a 3d god to teach u them! LOL

[AcidDrink]

You will be just fine with SmackTalk videos, assuming you don't rush through them. I've learned at least 50 percent of what I know from these.