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  • Spektrum backplate rpm sensor and Magnum Centre glide rear bearing issue?

    Hi everyone.

    Does anyone have any experience of this combination please? Setup I'm trying to sort out is an OS 105 HZR with the centre glide bearing with the spektrum backplate sensor in a Gaui NX7 on the vbar nitro gov.

    On the bench the vcontrol shows it's detecting the crank going past, but not consistently every time I turn it. The square goes on and off a bit randomly, but it's getting something. When the engine starts it seems like the backplate sensor 'sees' the crank go past about twice for every revolution, so shows it at normal flight rpm when it's clearly much slower than that. It feels like the governor leaves it at what feels like about 1000rpm headspeed or less, even though the telemetry shows 1860. It's all over the place though chasing it's tail trying to manage the headspeed.

    I found an old thread on helifreak which mentions the centre glide bearing not playing nicely with the backplate sensor, but I only found one mention of it in the whole heli universe when this must be a relatively common pairing I'd have thought! I can imagine that big chunk of solid metal doing something to the magnetic fields around there though, so no surprise if it's having an effect I guess??

    I'm going to fit an old align magnet sensor on it, so i'm pretty sure this will be a solution, but it'd be good to know if it's just me, or a known issue.

    Cheers,

    Ben
    Gaui NX7, Vbar Neo, OS 105. Rail 696
    Logo 690SX v2, Vbar Neo, Edge 693
    Logo 700, Vbar Neo, Tribunus 200, VTX 717

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    Thanks for the ideas Michael.

    I think I've checked all that with no luck. I was even tempted to set the poles to 2, or double the requested headspeed to get it to drive it how I wanted, but it's not consistently halving the rpm, so that seemed dangerous!!

    When it's idling the telemetry shows about 800rpm, so times 8.18 = nearly 7000rpm idle speed which it's not (thankfully!)

    I think you're right about the sensor gap. I've tried it from zero up to about 2mm which is as far as i can get it away from the backplate without the secondary U shaped part of the engine mount that goes around the back of the engine on the NX7 getting in the way. Maybe it just wants a bigger gap - but alas I can't get it any further away.

    Have you got it working with a 1 mm gap and a centre glide bearing?
    Gaui NX7, Vbar Neo, OS 105. Rail 696
    Logo 690SX v2, Vbar Neo, Edge 693
    Logo 700, Vbar Neo, Tribunus 200, VTX 717

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    • #3
      Thanks Maj. I tried it again with a medium size gap to the backplate with the same results. I've swapped it out for a standard type magnet and align sensor I had lying around which I'm sure/hope will be fine.

      Anyway - a bit of a mystery! The BP sensor worked fine with my old 91HZ, so I don't think it's a bad unit. And as you say it gives a nice neat install. I'll store it away for if I ever setup another nitro heli.
      Gaui NX7, Vbar Neo, OS 105. Rail 696
      Logo 690SX v2, Vbar Neo, Edge 693
      Logo 700, Vbar Neo, Tribunus 200, VTX 717

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