Money Laundering

**Biggles** · 04-04-2007, 12:37 AM

And I thought laundering money was when I forget to empty my pockets before I put my clothes in the wash....well at least it aint dirty anymore.

**robgt** · 04-04-2007, 12:51 AM

Just suppose for a second this actually worked, what's the harm...I get what I want and he get's a share of his money back.

Actually, you'd end up with nothing. The cheque they send you for vast sums is stolen, and as cheques never actually clear in the banking system, the cash can and will be removed from your account at a later date to recoup the funds from the stolen cheque to their original owner.

You lose everything, specifically, the heli and £2500...

I'd love to meet the retard who tried this on with me - I would do him some serious damage

Cheers,
Rob

**robgt** · 04-04-2007, 12:57 AM

I should read a thread before posting on the end of it...
Tut tut tut

Cheers,
Rob

**cambs flyer** · 18-01-2008, 05:52 PM

Your bloody right with your previous thread mate, they should be hung out to dry.

The same thing was going on in Astro Ads a few years back, you'd sell a piece of equipment, and some arsehole would e-mail you saying he wants what your offering only he has a $50.000 cheque and could I take receipt of it cash it and send them the balance.

Of course I gave them very detailed directions, but even now I receive e-mails from sodding Nigerians and Algerians stating there the Lawer for the late Mooson Basser and they have need to deposit £25,000,000 out of the country and I'd receive a percentage of this for helping them.

So for the shear hell of it I played along with one of them and after a few weeks we got to the business end of the game where I'd have to pay £6000 for the bank to release the funds.

Of course I can't repeat what I wrote back to them, but it's amazing the lengths there go to if they think some mug has been hook, lined and sinkered

It doesn't matter where you are these days, there's always some conning bastard trying to rip you off.

**RCNooBee** · 25-07-2008, 12:21 PM

As a showroom and mail-order company we get these all the time. I don't know if you're aware but even if a cheque clears in your account and you have the money in your hands, if it's drawn on an overseas bank, they can re-claim the funds up to TWO YEARS in the future and you have no recourse against it. U.K. banks are different and most people are unaware of this fact - that's what they rely on.

To be fair to them, it's not just the BMFA site, this happens on pretty much all classified sites. I've placed ads on local free-ads sites and had enquiries from all over the world, but mainly Ghana as this is one of the places where it's quite difficult to trace the offender due to an almost complete lack of commitment from the authorities. They just don't have the systems in place.

A popular one we get via e-mail is where they enquire about our products and engage you in e-mail conversation about prices etc and say they'll collect from you, then right at the last minute say they can't make it and that a 'friend' will collect it, or to ship it to a freight forwarder. The problem here is that the person collecting the goods (if they turn up) is not the one perpetrating the fraud and the Police are not allowed to arrest them because they haven't committed any offence.

We also get quite a few from Dr. or Reverend somebody or other buying on behalf of some charity.

If you're in any doubt, Google them. You'll be surprised what pops up, even if you Google yourself.

Stay safe.

**trillian** · 25-07-2008, 01:25 PM

Yeah, I have seen that scam before with Ebay items I was selling. It's an old trick and the cheque will look official but will be totally bogus.

As for 'money laundering' IMHO we have way too many laws for kind of thing in the name of 'terrorism' etc. and it's really a bit OTT. We have become a paranoid society legally obligated to rat on our neighbors for so-called 'suspicious' actions and having to be overly careful we don't accidentally contravene any number of stupid laws. It's sad really.

**jboweruk** · 25-07-2008, 04:19 PM

All Hail the almighty USA, thanks for what you've given the world, just because some jumped up little **** knocked a couple of your buildings over.

**est1976** · 01-02-2009, 05:17 AM

Someone tried it on with me I was selling my dads van in the autotrader, I got a few emails of this guy and then and a cheque for £3500 he was arranging for someone to pick up the vehicle once the cheque had processed through the bank. I think we only wanted £2500 for the van. Tha balance was for the shipping to be giving to the firm that was moving the van for him. The cheque was from the 'Bank of Ireland' it never cleared the bank, the bank never contacted me about it and I never thought about it again until I read this thread!

edit : that was about 3-4 years ago

**heliTV** · 01-02-2009, 05:56 AM

I was selling some audio gear a while back and someone tried this one. I got a cheque for 3 x the value of the goods but was suspicious all along. As the cheque was from the same bank as mine (different branch), I contacted my banking manager chap who checked it out and told me to send it with the correspondence to him as the cheque book was stolen. Heard nothing since.

I've bought a few high-value items from eBay but have always met up with the seller and checked the gear before parting with money. My general rule is that if it's only a few quid, I'll take the risk with online purchasing from private people but for high-value stuff, I always meet up.

Given the current economic climate, I guess there will be a few more of these about...

**phockzie** · 01-02-2009, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by primesigns

But of course if anyone does no a fool proof scam then please share as my pockets are feeling a bit light after all the copter repairs!!

Go and work for the government, they scam me all the time.

**Dazzyman** · 04-01-2010, 03:14 PM

Its got an official name as the 419 scam
Vehicle Export Scam - Safety and Security - Auto Trader UK - Buy & Sell New & Used Cars, Car Loans, Car Insurance

Same happened to me when I put my dads one up in autotrader. I delt with it all as Im net savvy and their not and I had quite a few. One actually made my mum cry as it was a scammer pretending to be a woman who had just lost her baby and same thing wanted it exporting would give a cheque etc...

These scams prey on greedy people so if it looks too good to be true it is otherwise everyone would be rich

Never pay or recieve with bankers drafts/wire transfers or take a cheque simple as that with ebay its full of em. Had a m8 get done out of £4k with a pinball table with dodgy buyer once on ebay in France (soon as you use a international you have no rights) bloke recieved it said he didnt nowt he could do as he resinded the funds via paypal who are useless and wouldnt help.