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  • KDE 700 Head

    Probably going to go against what most people think here, that DFC is possibly not an upgrade (IMO) from a more conventional fbl head with a swash follower/driver. On my Trex 550 that I had a while ago now, I converted it from fb to fbl and went straight for the DFC head so really didn't have much to compare the differences to, I did however build another fbl 550 for a mate of mine which had the standard 3g fbl head on it. I personally thought when test flying his model that it felt better but really couldn't put my finger on why at the time so carried on with the DFC head on my 550, they were similar spec Beastx heli's and set up the same.

    Fast forward to the 700e DFC that I bought when they came out....I've been really impressed overall with the 700 and it had, until buying a Rave and YS 120, been my every day model that I flew the most but I can't explain it but I just couldn't get it completely 'locked', very good but just not quite there. This has been compounded by flying the Rave. The Rave is just so different in every way really, a big tall heli which just looks massive compared to my DFC yet it just feels better in the air than the 700.

    So this has made me look at the DFC head on my 700 and first thought was to just put on a v2 head with the integrated followers to see if this improved/changed the feel, although you cant use a v2 main shaft on the v3 frame as it's not long enough to reach the bottom bearing block, but I still really liked the lower stance of the DFC which led me onto the KDE head.

    The quality out of the packet is really nice, you get the KDE block, pitch arms and the pitch control links from the swash (which are a proper turnbuckle) so you need the blade grips, feather shaft etc, control arms and standard swash for the conversion. It uses the DFC main shaft so the KDE head only adds 10mm to the total height of the head.
    So far i'm really pleased with how it's turned out, looks very nice, but not had a chance yet to give it a proper session so can't tell yet if it has improved things, this weekend hopefully though.

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    I know what you mean about the rave G . It's big and tall and it looks clumsy but its soo nice to fly. I do miss mine. Don't get me wrong I love my logo it flies great but just different to the rave and I miss the presence it had in the air too.
    As far as DFC goes, you won't hear a bad word from me I've had over 150 flights on my 600 and only had to change links after crashes apart from that its been faultless ;-)
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    • #3
      Originally posted by milly0812 View Post
      you won't hear a bad word from me I've had over 150 flights on my 600 and only had to change links after crashes apart from that its been faultless ;-)
      As you say Don, a lot of very happy DFC users generally but just not for everyone I guess. Will report on any improvement or if there's none!!

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      • #4
        Is that the STX head I have been looking at getting one for my old 700...where did you get it from...Thanks...
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        • #5
          John

          Got it direct from KDE, free postage and arrived within a week.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by jonesheli View Post
            John

            Got it direct from KDE, free postage and arrived within a week.

            George
            wonder why they dont have them in the shops over here...how much did you pay if you dont mind me asking......
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              did it ? blimey , must try one , having crashed many many times this year with my 500 , 550 and 600e pro , all were DFC , all trashed a servo every time , i converted my 600 back to normal , except with the dfc hub and swash follower , smacked that in and it didn`t kill a servo i LOVE the way the DFC feels n flys but hate the way it crashes , right , off to KDE , cheers mr jonesheli
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              • #8
                Wouldnt mind trying one of these George, it seems you get the best of both with this head, the more axial feel of the DFC head and the peace of mind knowing your pitch link bolts arent going to snap off lol, although saying that i do trust my DFC head and its never let me down over the 200+ flights its had. I wonder How much difference that 10mm on the height would actually make to how it feels?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jonesheli
                  Paypal.
                  Sorry it was meant too day how much ....
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ady View Post
                    did it ? blimey , must try one , having crashed many many times this year with my 500 , 550 and 600e pro , all were DFC , all trashed a servo every time , i converted my 600 back to normal , except with the dfc hub and swash follower , smacked that in and it didn`t kill a servo i LOVE the way the DFC feels n flys but hate the way it crashes , right , off to KDE , cheers mr jonesheli
                    What type of servo horns/wheels are you using?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jwatts007 View Post
                      Sorry it was meant too day how much ....
                      $114.95 or roughly £75 posted.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by tonystevens View Post
                        Wouldnt mind trying one of these George, it seems you get the best of both with this head, the more axial feel of the DFC head and the peace of mind knowing your pitch link bolts arent going to snap off lol, although saying that i do trust my DFC head and its never let me down over the 200+ flights its had. I wonder How much difference that 10mm on the height would actually make to how it feels?
                        To be honest Tony I've also had zero problems with either DFC heads i've had with countless flights on both but this KDE head really does look the business and as you say should be the best of both worlds, you wouldn't be disappointed with it i'm sure.

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                        • #13
                          Align metal arms all the time , but I don't have the 550 or 600 now as they went to pay for the 700 and the 500 will soon be stripped to pay for another couple of batts
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                          • #14
                            KDE 700 Head

                            I use the futaba plastic wheels and they tend to strip before any servo damage;-)
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                            New Logo 550
                            Synergy N5c
                            TSA 700E night flier
                            I use VBar control because it's feckin awesome I use NEO rescue when I remember to
                            5 x EGS thingys and a Platinum star doo dah

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ady View Post
                              Align metal arms all the time , but I don't have the 550 or 600 now as they went to pay for the 700 and the 500 will soon be stripped to pay for another couple of batts
                              Ady

                              What size packs you looking for? I have a pair of Turnigy blue 6s 5000's that I don't use if you're interested?

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