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    Training heli, MSR?

    Hi there. I'm currently looking for a heli to get myself up to speed with the heli hobby. Last year, I bought myself a Trex 450 and fully enjoyed playing around with it. i didn't do a lot with it as I'm sure you're all aware that it's a bit advanced for a first heli which leads to my question.

    I'm looking at guides everywhere on the internet for which heli to start off with and they all seem to be old. They say go for the Blade MSR or CX2 first but is that advice still valid? Is there something else which is better now or do they still stand as one of the best to learn with?

    I have a 3 channel micro toy heli which is great fun but I have a Spektrum DX7 Tx which I bought with my 450 so I'm looking for a decent BnF that supports it.

    Can someone point me in the right direction as to which one to go for? I'm after flying in the house so a smaller heli would be ace
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    I would say Nano cpx or 130x, I ve done 90% of my learning so far on the nano cpx, it crashes well, just pick it up and try again, the 130x is also great fun, slightly bigger but is also a good outdoor training heli
    Blade mSRX
    Blade Nano CPX
    Blade 130x
    Blade 300x
    DX6i
    Phoenix v4 + simstick

    terraclean-sussex.co.uk

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    • #3
      Training heli, MSR?

      Having just started myself and needing something small to fly indoors to improve my skill I opted for the nano , it's small and a little pocket rocket when you get to master it ! .
      .......
      Nano CPX, 2 x blade 300x, blade 450 (sk720 FBL), align250


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      • #4
        If you are looking for a collective pitch (CP) heli then a Nano CPX is a great starting point but CP helis can be a bit difficult for some people as a first heli and so if so then I would recommend a Blade 120SR or if you want something a little smaller then an MSR or MSRX. All of those are fixed-pitch and a lot easier than CP s.
        Paul

        MCPX
        E-Flight Blade 450X / AR7200BX
        Align Trex 450 Pro DFC / AR7200BX

        Planks - WOT 4 Foam E

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        • #5
          It depends on your attitude and where you learn. If indoors in a house then it's mcx, msr, msr-x, nano, mcpx or 130. In order of difficulty. Some people like a challenge, others like to enjoy life. It is possible to learn on a 450 or bigger. The main thing to remember is that they are all different. I fly a 450 and find it easier than a msr-x. The 450 is more stimulating and costs much more and takes longer to fix. My helis seem to start off fairly reliable and become unreliable after the inevitable crashes. A crash seems to to do two sorts of damage. There's what you have to replace and there's the bits that are now more likely to break in use. Things wear out as well. seems like an old car really.
          Flasher 450 Sport. Assan GA250 with 520 tail servo, MKS DS450 cyclic.
          Multiplex Cockpit Tx, DX7, DX6i
          Blade 130-X, MSR, MSRX
          Phoenix Sim

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          • #6
            Thank you for everyones advice. I'm not sure if to jump to a micro CP or just get a FP. I'll definitely check the models mentioned above, thank you

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            • #7
              Training heli, MSR?

              I have the nano and I decided to get a good transmitter (spektrum dx8 ) I spent the last few days getting the feel of the nano , so far it's more responsive than my FP even when in have adjusted the DR & Expo rates on the DX8.

              I would recommend a CP to start , but you will need a good transmitter in 2 days I have got t he nano in a stable hover , I can menouver it and just starting to get a feel for nose in .

              It all about practice , practice slow steps and not giving in if you crash .
              .......
              Nano CPX, 2 x blade 300x, blade 450 (sk720 FBL), align250


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              • #8
                I have , msrx , nano , 130x , 450 sport , 450 pro , esp 600 , Much like you i almost started with the big ones But now find myself going back to the small ones to start to push my envalope , the msrx is a (indoors) pussy cat , I bought this to practice nose in , the nano is the buisseness (takes some battering) i have more than one setting in my dx7s , with reduced expo it can fly like the msrx , the 130x flys like a larger heli & probaly better used outside , For me the nano wins , It can be used outside in light winds , great inside & survives most crashes
                Goblin , 380 Carbon
                Oxy 4 - 360
                Oxy 4 - 325
                Oxy 3 - 250 , 3s
                Oxy 3 - 250 , 4s
                Oxy 3 - 280 , 3s
                Oxy 2 - 190
                Oxy 2 - 210
                XK K110. X 4 (best micro I’ve ever owned)
                Spektrum DX9
                Revolectrix PL6 & PL8

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                • #9
                  The msrx can be flown slowly. It can also fly very quickly and needs a big hall. We had about twelve people flying last night and my msr-x was more exciting than a 450 outdoors, trying to avoid the midairs. I've flown the nano and the mcpx and didn't like the nano. That's not a criticism of the nano, but it has so little stability. I'm going to get a 130X as soon as I find the cheapest place. KingsLyn at the moment £140 BNF.
                  Flasher 450 Sport. Assan GA250 with 520 tail servo, MKS DS450 cyclic.
                  Multiplex Cockpit Tx, DX7, DX6i
                  Blade 130-X, MSR, MSRX
                  Phoenix Sim

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                  • #10
                    Thank you for the advice, i think I'm swaying towards the MSR or MSRx but I'm unsure. My living room isn't massive so I'm not after anything that can be used both indoors and out as when I start to get more confident, I'll up my game a little and get a slightly bigger heli or sling myself to CP. Unsure if the MSR or MSRx is for me as those are the ones I'm swaying towards. Hhhmmm, i thought learning would be the difficult part but it seems it's the selection process of your first heli that's the sticking point

                    According to reviews, the MSRx is an intermediate heli but a lot of you are saying that these micro helis are a good starting point. hhmm, I think I may go for the MSRx

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                    • #11
                      the msrx is a good choice , I started with a trex 100 which was ok but the msrx is way better , Keep us up to speed with how you are getting on with whatever you get , kenny d
                      Goblin , 380 Carbon
                      Oxy 4 - 360
                      Oxy 4 - 325
                      Oxy 3 - 250 , 3s
                      Oxy 3 - 250 , 4s
                      Oxy 3 - 280 , 3s
                      Oxy 2 - 190
                      Oxy 2 - 210
                      XK K110. X 4 (best micro I’ve ever owned)
                      Spektrum DX9
                      Revolectrix PL6 & PL8

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                      • #12
                        Thanks Kenny, just looking at what chargers to get as I was thinking of getting just the MSRx and getting a decent charger separately. Not sure what to go for though, so many decisions lol

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                        • #13
                          I have a eflight 4 port celectra , I am using turnigy 160 mah (ebay 6 for £13 ) , they also fit the nano , so if you step up to the nano you've already got bats & charger
                          Goblin , 380 Carbon
                          Oxy 4 - 360
                          Oxy 4 - 325
                          Oxy 3 - 250 , 3s
                          Oxy 3 - 250 , 4s
                          Oxy 3 - 280 , 3s
                          Oxy 2 - 190
                          Oxy 2 - 210
                          XK K110. X 4 (best micro I’ve ever owned)
                          Spektrum DX9
                          Revolectrix PL6 & PL8

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                          • #14
                            I like the celectra charger. There isn't a lot of difference between the msr and msr-x as far as learning is concerned. The main factor with learning seems to be survivability. With a 450 you spend a lot of time waiting for parts. The msr is probably easier indoors. The msr-x can fly fast enough to handle a bit of wind and being flybarless should handle turbulence better. Whatever you get you'll probably wreck it eventually through a midair. I'd get either and worry about the next heli. You could buy both. It's the cheapest way of buying parts.
                            Flasher 450 Sport. Assan GA250 with 520 tail servo, MKS DS450 cyclic.
                            Multiplex Cockpit Tx, DX7, DX6i
                            Blade 130-X, MSR, MSRX
                            Phoenix Sim

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                            • #15
                              I have thought about buying both, mainly to get the Celectra 4 way battery charger with the MSR and then getting just the MSRx. Currently looking at chargers to see if it's worth upgraing to a decent one for the long term.

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