Just thought id share that i had fun last night with my velo 50 after flashing to the v3 firmware and getting the tail setup better than its ever been. Confirmation again that this system really does just get better and better. The diffrence in the tail is now night and day but dont just expect it to work as you do have to get the setup right and be in the ball park with regards to ball link placement etc etc. Anyways... I thought it may be a good idea to share some settings and that i could make this a sticky for all to see. Theres not that much info available on peoples actual setups from what i can see. Please feel free to share your settings whatever equipment your using or model. This should give some of the newbies some insight. Ill start us off with a few settings but it would be good if we could all use a template type layout for easy viewing. Feel free to add anything or suggestions in addition, whether its for cyclics/tail setup or whatever.
Model: Outrage Velocity 50
Cyclic Servos: Futaba 9252
Tail Servo: Align DS650
Tail Servo ball link position: 2nd hole out on 5 arm servo wheel
Transmitter & Gain: Spektrum DX7SE - 65% in the Travel adjust menu.
Additional information: Tail setup - Setup the tail sensor direction (Setup Menu F) first. Next setup the tail in rate mode so that the heli hovers without any rudder input (usual tail setup, 90 degrees on the servo arm etc. I found the second hole out on my arm was optimal). Then do the tail servo rotor endpoints (Setup menu E) so you have no binding either way. Adjust rudder channel travel adjust in the TX to get my your piro rate and add any expo you may wish to use. Fly the model and up the TX gain until the tail wags then back off 2%. Next use the tail heading lock gain (Parameter Menu D) and do the same thing as you did with finding your gyro gain in the TX. It will wag like crazy when you go too far. (I found thats all i had to do to get a perfect tail, pretty standard tail setup really. One note to add would be that my model didnt seem to like the tail torque pre-compensation setting. It was happy with it switched off. Tail is rock solid in tic toks etc
I personally used MSlaters table to find out my servo frequencies etc (thanks Mark
)
Grab that here, its in MS Excel format -
servo.xls
Heres the settings i ended up with anyways:-
Setup Menu
B/Swash servo frequency - Blue led (200hz)
C/Tail servo centre position pulse length - blue led (1520µs)
D/Tail servo frequency - Blue flashing led (333hz)
H/Swashplate mixer - Red led (120 degrees)
J/Swashplate cyclic geometry - set to 6 degrees of pitch
K/Collective pitch range - +/- 11 degrees
L/Swashplate cyclic limit - set as far as i could get it without any binding at full positive and negative pitch with full elevator/aileron command in all directions.
Parameter Menu
A/Swashplate cyclic adjustment - i set this with a swashplate tool so that it was level at centre stick.
B/Control behaviour - blue led - Transmitter. I use the travel adjust/expo in my Transmitter to adjust the feel/flip/roll rate of the model.
C/Swashplate pitching up behaviour - red led - medium - i didnt see any pitching up in fast forward flight on my model. Move this up if you see those affects.
D/Tail heading lock gain - red led - medium - upping this i developed a wag in fast manouvres so i decided to keep this set at the default which the model was more than happy with. I cant get the tail to blow out in any move that i can do thats for sure!
E/Stick deadband - red flashing led - 2 - left to default.
F/Tail pre-compensation (Revo) - purple led - off - my model seemed fine with no pre-comp so ive left this at the default. Tail is rock solid.
G/Cyclic response - blue flashing led - high - personal preference as i like my models very responsive.
H/Pitch boost - blue flashing - high - after testing various option here i decided high was for me. Very high seemed too give too much added pitch and almost felt delayed. Option below didnt seem enough, in fact i could hardly tell.
Look forward to seeing other results...
Model: Outrage Velocity 50
Cyclic Servos: Futaba 9252
Tail Servo: Align DS650
Tail Servo ball link position: 2nd hole out on 5 arm servo wheel
Transmitter & Gain: Spektrum DX7SE - 65% in the Travel adjust menu.
Additional information: Tail setup - Setup the tail sensor direction (Setup Menu F) first. Next setup the tail in rate mode so that the heli hovers without any rudder input (usual tail setup, 90 degrees on the servo arm etc. I found the second hole out on my arm was optimal). Then do the tail servo rotor endpoints (Setup menu E) so you have no binding either way. Adjust rudder channel travel adjust in the TX to get my your piro rate and add any expo you may wish to use. Fly the model and up the TX gain until the tail wags then back off 2%. Next use the tail heading lock gain (Parameter Menu D) and do the same thing as you did with finding your gyro gain in the TX. It will wag like crazy when you go too far. (I found thats all i had to do to get a perfect tail, pretty standard tail setup really. One note to add would be that my model didnt seem to like the tail torque pre-compensation setting. It was happy with it switched off. Tail is rock solid in tic toks etc
I personally used MSlaters table to find out my servo frequencies etc (thanks Mark
)Grab that here, its in MS Excel format -
servo.xls
Heres the settings i ended up with anyways:-
Setup Menu
B/Swash servo frequency - Blue led (200hz)
C/Tail servo centre position pulse length - blue led (1520µs)
D/Tail servo frequency - Blue flashing led (333hz)
H/Swashplate mixer - Red led (120 degrees)
J/Swashplate cyclic geometry - set to 6 degrees of pitch
K/Collective pitch range - +/- 11 degrees
L/Swashplate cyclic limit - set as far as i could get it without any binding at full positive and negative pitch with full elevator/aileron command in all directions.
Parameter Menu
A/Swashplate cyclic adjustment - i set this with a swashplate tool so that it was level at centre stick.
B/Control behaviour - blue led - Transmitter. I use the travel adjust/expo in my Transmitter to adjust the feel/flip/roll rate of the model.
C/Swashplate pitching up behaviour - red led - medium - i didnt see any pitching up in fast forward flight on my model. Move this up if you see those affects.
D/Tail heading lock gain - red led - medium - upping this i developed a wag in fast manouvres so i decided to keep this set at the default which the model was more than happy with. I cant get the tail to blow out in any move that i can do thats for sure!
E/Stick deadband - red flashing led - 2 - left to default.
F/Tail pre-compensation (Revo) - purple led - off - my model seemed fine with no pre-comp so ive left this at the default. Tail is rock solid.
G/Cyclic response - blue flashing led - high - personal preference as i like my models very responsive.
H/Pitch boost - blue flashing - high - after testing various option here i decided high was for me. Very high seemed too give too much added pitch and almost felt delayed. Option below didnt seem enough, in fact i could hardly tell.
Look forward to seeing other results...




Comment