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  • Total G Review

    Not so much of a review I suppose as I this is my first experience of FBL, but just some information that I was looking for when I was comparing FBL units.


    I have only had a couple of flights on it though, so this is the very very initial thoughts with no tweaking at all!

    I went for this unit due to the fact it is an 'all in one', as it is an Rx bus, gov, fbl unit and gyro. In turn this saves weight, and frees up a bit of space for the wiring.

    I opted to convert the original head using FBL;
    Headblock
    Blade grip arms
    Pitch links
    Washout collar
    Washout arms

    ....all came to around £50

    (apologies for the poor pic)



    I have modified the frames slightly to fit the TotalG, so next up, the unit itself fitted. Really is a simple setup using the TotalG, Outrage tail servo, BLS351s all running at 8V.



    The Instruction Manual

    I though this deserved its own sub heading to point out just how uesless this really is. To me this is a poster of information, maybe something that was to advertise the product pre-release. To be given this after spending just shy of £300 is a bit of a **** take.

    Ideally I want a step by step guide of what to do, I didnt even know where to start with this 'instruction manual'! All the information isnt really that detailed at all, just an overview.

    It can be found here;

    http://curtisyoungblood.com/TotalGSp...n%20Manual.pdf

    ..and that is all you get!!

    The Page connecting you to the unit, I had a bit of trouble connecting first of all as the software was missing the driver. Windows will automoatically find the missing driver though as it is just a Bus to USB one that is needed.



    Cyclics

    After setting up, I flew it on those settings and it was very good I will need to speed them up but flying it was effortless, piroflips stayed at the same point, aileron tic tocs stayed level and at the same point. I knocked the gain down a bit, which removed the elevator bounce completely. The best way to describe this is that it is like flying the sim, with no corrections having to be made. Really really impressed with this part of the system.



    Gyro

    Humm not too keen on this at the moment tbh and would hate to see history repeat itself with the SoggyG. The tail is quick and consistant but the stops are very soft. Im a bit dissapointed at the limited options avaiable to you in the software as all you are really able to adjust is the gain. Hopefully something that will be addressed in the next FREE update.

    I know the gyro requires a lot of gain, as CYB runs the servo horn at 17mm out with 70% on the endpoints, my setup is nowhere near this value so will have to wait and see. I do believe that this is an issue with my mechanical gain.



    Govenor

    All worked fine and just as well as my CSM. This works by upping your endpoint figure in the Tx much like the Align system, and the speed is shown on the comp.



    Overall it really is a great unit with loads of potential! Everything works as it should, and does it really well (other than the tail atm). The flips are dead straight too! I have read a couple of reviews from trusted pilots that have their tail sorted so will give them a PM.

    Autos well as expected, but couldnt get much higher than 15ft or so before the Great British Weather took its toll.

    I would also like to see a powerlead on the unit itself, much like the AR7100 incorporates.



    The Maniac blades also work really well, luckily as I have spent a small fortune lately! This setup is most definitely worth the money though

    Last edited by sacko; 22-08-2010, 01:38 PM.
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  • #2
    Thanks for the write up,full of potential then.

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    • #3
      Wait a sec...
      you've got delta mixing on the head!
      In other words, the balls are on the wrong side of the blade grips.
      Unless you've got a very good reason to do so, they should be aligned on the middle line, so that a flapping of the feathering shaft doesn't affect blade pitch. That's the typical rule for FBL.
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      Last edited by GravityKills; 22-08-2010, 01:10 PM.
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      • #4
        Loads of potential for more in depth programming is needed really, especially for the tail.

        Once you use a Spartan, you compare everything to it.

        Cheers, balls being moved as we speak
        Last edited by sacko; 22-08-2010, 01:24 PM.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by sacko View Post
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          • #6
            Right, you can access the full gyro menu

            You have to change the view to GView in the settings and this gives you a screen which looks like a Gview, all parameters are in there.
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            • #7
              Is it flying yet??
              What is the verdict, If it's like the other CY products then it should work well.
              Paul.
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              • #8
                God its quiet in the TotalG section, they must me rubbish Paul because it looks like your the only person with one , it would be nice to no its as good as the BeastX before i rush out and pick one up lol.

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                • #9
                  maybe it's the same problem as with AC3X, Gyrobot etc: I'd really like to try them and find what works best. But at € 400, no can do, when I can get a BeastX for €150.
                  My 450 conveniently exploded today now it will go to the 700, replacing the V-Bar...
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                  • #10
                    The flight control feels really nice, and really pleased with it.

                    The tail was fast and consistant but the stops were terrible. Luckily, after a member on HF told me about the GView menu this can be rectified and I reckon it will be spot on.

                    I have only done 2 tanks through it so far as the weather has stopped play, but hopefully will do a few more over the weekend and ill report how its gone on.

                    In all honesty though I think its going to be top banana, but unlike the BeastX it needs to be 'tweaked' a bit more.

                    I dont think it is as much about the price. Its £100 more but has a govenor and you can use it as an Rx, hardly breaking the bank. The potential seems endless and CYB has answered many of questions on AllMyRC, so the support is there.

                    The instructions are **** poor, and the gyro PC software GUI is terrible but it is a new product and imo a very good one.
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                    • #11
                      O.. and its worth buying the flybar holder to measure the pitch, bit annoying that you dont get one with the TotalG as it is pretty useful.

                      Fast Lad Performance
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by sacko View Post
                        I dont think it is as much about the price. Its £100 more but has a govenor and you can use it as an Rx, hardly breaking the bank.
                        Are you able to connect two Spektrum satellites?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by J-S-Q View Post
                          Are you able to connect two Spektrum satellites?
                          Up to 3
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                          • #14
                            Just googled it and I see it's possible to connect up to three satellites. I can't see any point in running a separate rx then (unless you use Futaba of course) and as Sacko pointed out it does make the price seem more reasonable.

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                            • #15
                              Yup, you could sell your Rx and Gov to make up the difference.


                              ....but you do have to buy 2/3 more Spek Satelite. Kings Lynn Models are doing them for £17
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