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  • Gaui 200 V2 My thoughts so far

    For anyone who's interested here's my take on the Gaui 200 V2.

    I'd never been too interested in micros but I brought this on a whim and because I was offered such a great deal on it, it was hard to say no. I paid under £120 quid and all it needed was an Rx & Gyro, it even came with a 2c lipo.
    I had an old GY240 kicking about and brought a 2nd hand AR6100 from a memeber here and I was good to go.

    I read up on it and although it came pre built decided to give it a good going over and a bit of threadlock. To be honest it didnt really need doing, I found that all the screws were pretty tight and it could probably have flown as it was. I did manage to strip the thread in the ally boom retainer block trying to get the tail & belt tight so had to insert a longer bolt and put a nut on the back.

    What I would say is that a lot of the screws are philips and not hex headed and you need a tiny (I'm talking watchmaker here) screwdriver to get them on and off, so I am in the proccess of replacing them with hex's.
    Also there are a couple of brass bushes between the headblock and the blade grips which you have to be careful not to get threadlock on as this makes the head sieze up.

    The original setup gave me +/- 12 degrees of pitch which I dialed down to about 9's as a start point. I tried flying it at that but it was so incredibly twitchy and resposive it was almost unflyable. That coupled with a manky GY240 I was getting nowhere fast.

    After some research I decided to replace the floppy plastic blades with woodies £4.00 and fit a longer flybar and bar weights £3.00. This improved it remarkably, it was still lively but hovered much better.
    My problem was now the gyro, at first I had installed it on the baseplate just forward of the main gear but I was told it needed to be further forward, so I moved round the electrics and this helped a lot as I could easily get to the manual gain adjust pot and the gyro itself responded better.

    I brought a couple of extra lipo's £10 each and took it to my club, it flew ok for a few minutes but in my excitment I stuck it in.
    Broke the blades and bent what I thought was the feathering shaft, but as the feathering shaft is contained within the headblock all that bends are the set-screws that hold the grips on which are quick, cheap and easy to replace.

    With my new blades on I set about the gyro, but it seemed no matter where it was positioned or how it was set I couldnt get a happy balance between twichy and loose.

    Having decided that the GY240 was never going to cut it, I bit the bullet & brought a Gaui GU210 gyro. With a couple of minutes setup she was flying perfectly, solid tail and I was very impressed. It is very fast even with a 2c on it and its very easy to blast down the field and lose sight of it in a couple of seconds so it has to be flown reservidly.

    To date I've only done about 8 packs through it, how it stands the test of time we'll have to wait and see but my first impressions are that it is a well made, strong, little heli that flies nicely considering it's size. I'm not sure I'd want to fly it in my front room but a large empty garage would be about my limit.

    If you are thinking about buying one of these here's some things you might find useful in the early days.

    [I]It is worth getting a file on the canopy and getting it to sit perfectly on the frame, mine fitted out of the box but it was a bit tight which led to some stress cracks after just a few flights.[/I]

    [I]Headspeed is your friend, run it fast, my idle ups are staright 100% it looks insane to start with but believe me it flies best at that.[/I]

    [I]If youre looking for a nut for the boom retaining bolt its the same size as the Align locknuts for servo balls.[/I]

    [I]After a crash even if the boom looks straight change it anyway, they're only pennies to buy, and if its just a mil out it shreds the tail belt.[/I]



    Even with a massive amount of dumbing down it's certainly not ideal for a beginner but for someone who's got a bit of experience its good fun!
    Guy

    Logo 600 SX VBar - Velocity N2 FBL BeastX - TRex 600 FBL BeastX - TRex 450 Pro - Gaui 200 - Blade 130X

    And an E.G.S!



  • #2
    I picked one of these up cheap a while ago too and I'd say my experience was some what similar to yours. I found building it a bit of a nightmare as although its a nicely made kit with barely any plastic in sight its just so small and fiddly!

    Running a futaba gy401, HS65's and Outrage 2S 850mAH 35C lips's. Standard plastic blades are poor and it needs a high headspeed for 3D but as a result its properly quick in a straight line. Definitely not the easiest heli to fly and can't handle much wind but great for practicing 3D in spaces your wouldn't dream of flying larger heli's.
    Sam
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    • #3
      I learned on that heli (a boom-stretched 100 SE, to be accurate).
      The design is brilliant - most crashes cost 20 cents to replace the two feathering shaft screws.
      It's even quite flyable with the plastic blades, you can do hard 3D with them. They won't beat carbons, but their advantage is they are almost indestructible as long as you hit throttle hold in the air. The downside, is, after a couple of crashes they may fail in the air, resulting in the smallest mid-air explosion you've ever seen...
      Woohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoo -Barbra Streisand

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      • #4
        I have one. I unfortunatley stripped the thread for the ball link on the V2 dual tail pitch slider & so i had to replace it with a V1 for now as i got a shed load of spares with it. It's worth noting that you need to be so delicate with the screws & balls as there's no need for using 450 strength torque. I've also been flying the plastic blades latley & they will tic toc although with carbons it will have more pop. I suppose i should put woodies back on?? I find i do have to fly it at all times & you can't stop thinking or you'll lose it. I reckon it would benefit from using the Vortex tail case & pitch control as IMO it appears to be a tad better than the Gaui V2's tail. I have the Shaft tail on mine. I also use 2s 12C Kong power packs on mine & like you say 100% flat is where it's happiest, although pottering around doing 8's in the garden in normal mode is great fun.

        I have my RX mounted at the front of the frame with a GP750 sat directly behind it & mount the lipo on the adjustable plate. The V1 canopy's fit best but the V2's look nicer & i like my green one although it's a total bitch to sqeeze down over the lipo. My only gripe is that i cannot for the life of me get rid of a large bounce on CW piro stops.
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        • #5
          Just got one of these critters myself. Cheers fiercebandger.

          looking forward to getting in the air. Thanks for the photos p4ddy - I may be pestering you a bit more for various tips.

          :D

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          • #6
            [quote=Sam_RS4;428356]I picked one of these up cheap a while ago too and I'd say my experience was some what similar to yours. I found building it a bit of a nightmare as although its a nicely made kit with barely any plastic in sight its just so small and fiddly!

            Running a futaba gy401, HS65's and Outrage 2S 850mAH 35C lips's. Standard plastic blades are poor and it needs a high headspeed for 3D but as a result its properly quick in a straight line. Definitely not the easiest heli to fly and can't handle much wind but great for practicing 3D in spaces your wouldn't dream of flying larger heli's.[/quote]

            Do HS65's really fit? I struggled to get HS45's in mine :)
            Regards,

            Jason
            Futaba 12FG/ Knight 3D / 450Pro / Beam E4 and a whole load of gliders!

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            • #7
              [quote=jiberjaber;434760]Do HS65's really fit? I struggled to get HS45's in mine :)[/quote]

              I think their 1 or 2 millimetres longer and wider than the hs45's but I was recommended to use 65's and they seem to fit fine. Can't imagine there's much performance difference though. Using a DS420 on tail and that was a tight fit.
              Sam
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              • #8
                I struggled to get the two front servos in when I had HS45's in. Did you have to modify the frame?
                Regards,

                Jason
                Futaba 12FG/ Knight 3D / 450Pro / Beam E4 and a whole load of gliders!

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                • #9
                  [quote=jiberjaber;434776]I struggled to get the two front servos in when I had HS45's in. Did you have to modify the frame?[/quote]

                  No frame modifications, I cant remember any problems when fitting the 65's and I've just had a look at the 2 front cyclic's and they seem to fit fine, you wouldnt get any bigger servos in though. Mine is a Gaui 200 v2 Black edition which I believe is different to the silver 200 v2 although i would have thought the frames would be the same size just a different colour.
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                  • #10
                    did you have the v2 jason? as the 65mgs fit fine in my gaui 200 v2 fes

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                    • #11
                      Yes think so, there used to be some pics on here when we had the gallery. Will see if i can find the pics.
                      Regards,

                      Jason
                      Futaba 12FG/ Knight 3D / 450Pro / Beam E4 and a whole load of gliders!

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                      • #12
                        Its this one. About Aug 2008 I think.
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                        Jason
                        Futaba 12FG/ Knight 3D / 450Pro / Beam E4 and a whole load of gliders!

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                        • #13
                          those frames look different to mine, not massively different but i'd guess they are v1 hence you couldn't get the 65mg's to fit :( could i interest you in a v2 flybarless airframe ;)

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                          • #14
                            So the latest update is..

                            I took it to my club on Sunday for its first real test in a wide opeen space. It was very windy, probably 15mph so not ideal for trimming it out but I had a go anyway. I must admit it went very very considering the conditions, I only managed a bit of sport flying but the power to weight ratio (bearing in mind I'm running 2 cells) was very impressive. It was quite hard to control in the hover and small slow circuits but if I cranked it up and flew it hard it behaved a lot like my TR 450, rapid climbouts, insane piro rate and very good forward speed.

                            My biggest problem was orientation, it gets a long way off very quickly and being so small I found it hard to spot. The answer was some dayglo stripes, they look rubbish but it made it far easier to identify.

                            All in all I did 3 lipos through it, about 15 mins of flight and nothing fell off or broke (which I had been told it would) so I'm pretty happy over all.

                            I'm just waiting for a calmer day now where I'm not fighting the wind, so I can properly trim it and give it a thorough workout.
                            Guy

                            Logo 600 SX VBar - Velocity N2 FBL BeastX - TRex 600 FBL BeastX - TRex 450 Pro - Gaui 200 - Blade 130X

                            And an E.G.S!


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                            • #15
                              [quote=Gate88;435294]All in all I did 3 lipos through it, about 15 mins of flight and nothing fell off or broke (which I had been told it would) so I'm pretty happy over all.[/quote]
                              I've heard people going on about them coming apart in the air - and it's not been my experience at all. (In a lot of hours of relatively gentle flying.)

                              I wonder if the bad experiences are down to the older plastic heads, rather than the metal ones they've had since the EP 100 SE Pro.
                              Yes, it's th@ tw@ Scallyb@...

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