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    Ok I am interested in going flybarless for my 700le but what's the best one??

    Fastlad have the align with all the head for 186.00, i know you sould not always go with price but which one is the best value for money. I am quite agressive but not that good.

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    hhhmmmm i know what i would recomend..!!!

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    the Align 3G is getting old, now that the 3GX is on the market. If you can get it cheaply, it may still be a smart move. The latest software update seems to have been quite an improvement.

    Keep in mind, the choice of blades is probably as important for cyclic as the FBL controller, maybe even more.
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    i would recommend vbar myself , the price may put you off but you have the reciever aswell beast x is certainly the other contender good price and works as good as any others
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    All flybarless systems artificially reproduce the effects of a flybar, so surely the best flybarless system is errrrrrrrrrr................





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    Quote Originally Posted by GravityKills View Post
    the Align 3G is getting old, now that the 3GX is on the market. If you can get it cheaply, it may still be a smart move. The latest software update seems to have been quite an improvement.

    Keep in mind, the choice of blades is probably as important for cyclic as the FBL controller, maybe even more.
    Thats a good point i was speaking to a guy at our club and he was saying that the blades are not that important with the latest FBL units but what about the align??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    All flybarless systems artificially reproduce the effects of a flybar, so surely the best flybarless system is errrrrrrrrrr................





    a flybar?


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    Thats what i have been fighting against but i would like to try
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    Never yet seen a big complaint about the Align FBL head for the 700, so thats a pretty safe bet. The other thing you could do is rathter than buy a complete head in the box, price up the bits you actually need and see if it comes in any cheaper... It probably does.

    Having seen you fly a fair bit Lee, Beastx or even the 3GX would do you just fine, but if you want that bit extra and be pretty much future proof, then look at the V-Bar.

    Oh, and dont forget, you got Chris who has forgotten more about V-bar that the likes of will probably ever know!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt t View Post

    Cheers Matt but still looking at options.
    Trex 700 LE, 610's cyclic. Vbar, Radix mains, OS91HZ H ring C spec Viper (lovely)
    Trex 600 NSP 610's, OS55, 9254 tail, Vbar, Align Mains

    Trex 600E 12s 610's cyclic, spartan, 9254 tail, Scorpion, turnigy ESC opto 120HV, 620 Mavrick mains.

    Trex 700EF3C stock (amazing)

    Trex 450 Pro Beastx, stock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidi View Post
    Never yet seen a big complaint about the Align FBL head for the 700, so thats a pretty safe bet. The other thing you could do is rathter than buy a complete head in the box, price up the bits you actually need and see if it comes in any cheaper... It probably does.

    Having seen you fly a fair bit Lee, Beastx or even the 3GX would do you just fine, but if you want that bit extra and be pretty much future proof, then look at the V-Bar.

    Oh, and dont forget, you got Chris who has forgotten more about V-bar that the likes of will probably ever know!!
    Thanks Aidi hope to see you at the weekend

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    Trex 600 NSP 610's, OS55, 9254 tail, Vbar, Align Mains

    Trex 600E 12s 610's cyclic, spartan, 9254 tail, Scorpion, turnigy ESC opto 120HV, 620 Mavrick mains.

    Trex 700EF3C stock (amazing)

    Trex 450 Pro Beastx, stock

    Spectra G gasser FOR SALE spec to follow

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    Lee

    If you want to try any of my helis you are welcome.

    My 550 has the 3GX fitted,the 700N has V5.1 V Bar and the 700E has V5.0 express V bar.Logos are being stripped and sold so they are out of the equation.

    IMHO the V bar is still the best system but i think its getting very close now between systems and if Mikado dont keep the updates coming they are gonna lose the top dog status 100%.

    As you want to try it on a 700 i suppose one of my 700s with the V bar would be the best ones to try but you can have a go on the 550 to get a feel for the 3GX.

    I cant believe i am saying this but i can actually say hand on heart with no bias that i think my 550 is flying better on 3GX than it did on V Bar V5.1.The Tail on the 3GX is simply stunning and the cyclic is very sharp and extremely quick.

    3GX is getting some very good reports from the US forums for a simple reason,its actually bloody good and i think Mikado and Beast would very foolish to ignore this because Align have made it quite clear that this is going to be developed very much with plenty of capacity in the hardware.

    I am seriously considering selling my last black V Bar system that was destined to go on my 600E Pro Mark 2 and replacing it with another 3GX.

    But to answer your question i think the best system is V bar,followed by 3GX,then beast X. Taking price into account its 3GX,Beast X,V Bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leckylee View Post
    Thats a good point i was speaking to a guy at our club and he was saying that the blades are not that important with the latest FBL units but what about the align??
    It's a tricky question. In my experience, the latest V-Bar is more tolerant when it comes to blades than older ones. So it seems to depend on the software.
    However, some blades work clearly better than others. I experimented (again) only yesterday, and the difference is quite notable.

    About "real" flybars, what the virtual ones are right now still lacking are the interesting features like
    - drift
    - roll rate depends on headspeed
    - bounce
    - engine loading
    - noise

    >> All flybarless systems artificially reproduce the effects of a flybar
    I'm not in a fighting mood, but I cannot agree with the statement.
    Unless you want the bells&whistles (paddle model etc), a flybarless controller implements "flip / roll rate proportional to stick movement". And that's it. A mechanical flybar cannot do this, it's only an approximation for example due to lack of long-term memory.
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    The best? V-Bar

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    Hi lee,
    I have just flown a friends 700le nitro fitted with an Align head and the old 3G running Version 3 softwear, I must admit it was very nice sort of slightly soft and not as agressive as my Total G equiped 700 le nitro ,Rexy.

    There were certainly no vices I could find and I was very impressed indeed.

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